What is really SUSTANON?
Whats good bro's and gal's of eroids community. First off, just want to shout out to the community for all the good stuff here. Everyone is great.
Bringing back to the topic, "Sustanon." From definition its Sustanon 250, the breakdown as follows:
Sustanon 250 is a blend of four esterized testosterone compounds:
30 mg testosterone propionate
60 mg testosterone phenylpropionate
60 mg testosterone isocaproate
100 mg testosterone decanoate
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustanon
I have seen a lot of Sust350 now, and it is as follows:
200 mg testosterone ethanate
100 mg testosterone cypianate
50 mg testosterone propinate "excuse the misspelling if this is the case"
Is this sustanon, or is this a new testosterone blend all together?
I ask this because I have seen some first timers talking about shooting 1cc M/W/F, which is a normal protocol for Sustanon. But this would be way overdoing it with this new form of blend, at over a gram a week.
If anyone else has any input I would it.
Thanks.
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For example you can make a sustanon 400 but it must be the specific ratio just at a higher dose.
Funny, you have been MIA for two years and still have not even posted in your SI.
It needs to have the specific ratio of the compounds listed in the OP to be considered sust. Otherwise its just a test blend
RustyhookerCareful...you cant advertise on your post above
Not advertising. Was an explanation
RustyhookerThanks for rewording. Have a great day!
This is labelled as sust but basically Is a test blend 350mg per ml with the dosages you have stated above. I will be running this product in a couple of weeks
RustyhookerId delete promo talk before you get negged. Then ask a direct question.
Your stats, priors and goals?
NotNatural23Not to question you cause you are a well respected member on here and I have nothing but respect for ya. But for his ? did he really need that info just for that. I know if he is talking about cycle or how he is gonna use it but for these types of questions it at least to me seems irrelevant.
Thanks
Not a forum for knitting.
We have protocols.
Ask a question, advice help on here, follow protocol which is stats, cycle history, age medical etc etc more the better.
So yea it is relevant.
Dont like it dont butt in simple.
Thanks..
RustyhookerProblems that have arisen non stop since this site opened is general good questions. Then after the question is fully answered, the op states that its a first, second, third cycle
Things i wont advise just based on my use as well as being in here daily since day 1.... sustanon, prop only as a first, tren, orals on first.
Why? Hows the pip on sust or prop? Then fifure in eod or ed pins. No prior rotation experience, pain, swelling....failed miserable cycle. Ive seen dozens of smartasses tell me all about the fact they're going to do it regardless. At least they were warned.
Orals only for males are nonsence imo. Crashed axis for maybe 2 real pounds gained and typically lost.
Tren....that should be self explanatory. Back a couple years ago all the vets pushed to keep tren of folks plate til about 10 unsuccessful cycles. Meaning nice constant gains. But that again should be self explanatory.
I know that it might seem crazy to ask for his stats but a year ago if you asked a question without your stats you were going to get torn apart. Alot of us have stopped asking this question and stats are important. Im glad we have rusty I actually brought this up the other day with him.
Rustyhooker^^^^^this. And thank you sir!
No doubt its something that we should really get back into the habit of
thanks Rusty. Fixed it.
Stats:
29 y/o
220 lbs
10% bf
I have ran 5+ cycles.
This post is meant to find out about this Sust350, I do not have any goals at the moment worth mentioning.
RustyhookerThank you sir!! The sus350 is not at all a sust blend. It should just be marked as a test blend.
Enth and cyp are almost tge same in half life and then theres the prop. To me the prop does not fit into that blend at all.
300mg with medium long esters for a 50 mg spike over 48 hours. Booo....if ya want prop just use prop.
But to the folks trying to eod the gear, lets look at some ideas. 700mg a week total...2 cc total per week.
Mon, wed, fri, sun...4 pins for total. So lets see how that prop works. 100mg by 4 pins =25mg eod.
The typical prop kicker is 100 eod....
Mon, wed, fri, sun....100mg x 4 = 400mg total, which by ester weight is a sizeable dose!
The 350 blend imo, just pin biweekly and forget the prop. Keep it simple. Cryhavok has tons of pinning by ester info thats worth its weight in gold. Using science you can pin by the hour and be extremely precise.
I was thinking the exact same I was thinking of pinning m,w,f at 0.7ml each time which would make the dosage 735 weekly but was also thinking that would lover the prop to about 35mg on them days which would deem the prop basically useless! It's a bit of an awkward one with the prop being in there at such a low dosage
RustyhookerAwkward is the perfect word.
On regular sust the shorter esters at least add a buffer of sorts until later in cycle where the long esters are kicking.
There's a few sources that do have a sust short blend that looks interesting. Test esters from prop to enth in length. I've yet to try that one.
Cryhavok outlines and has graphs for real sust and ed pins. I do a short front load with sust and then ed pins. But again, im usually blending in compounds like eq or mast etc...
sidenote....
If you decide on eod pins you can figure in a prop dose for your weekly total. Easy enough to do the math and track a 4 week kicker on the calender.
Just recently did a bit of research on the subject. Sustanon is a brand name made by a particular company. With the blend you mentioned first any thing that is not that blend is not sustanon. Is what the article read. Jm2c
100% agree with this, and I also believe that anything that is anything OTHER than Sustanon 250 (300, 350, 275, whatever) is up in the air for what's in it unless it is stated directly on the source page.
I'm just curious where you found the list of the blend for Sustanon 350? This isn't a standardized blend and all are proprietary. For one particular brand that recently had a promo of Sustanon 350, Enanthate 250, Cyp 200, and Prop 100 (5 bottles) I have never seen an official list stating the blend. Only hearsay.
NotNatural23dam that is 550mgs per ml not 350. Anyways. alot of sources that have a fast acti g ester and short acting ester call it sustanon just because it has 2 different esters. It is not really the real Sustanon which is trademarked name well at least I am sure it still is. Some other will call mixed esters a blend or supertest 450 for example. But the only way it is a real Sustanon is the above stated esters I. that correct doasges. THE 350 sustanon people are talking about is supposedly 200 100 50 mgs prop the other 2 are cyp and eth. Never seen it officially just members stating it is that. I have sent emails and pms to sources and never get a answer. Supposedly as most already know sust was made to give u more consistent blood levels over cyp or eth. Not sure if true cause I have seen people say it does and others say it doesn't.
I was only referring to the options in the promo, not the blend itself. Referring to brands and promos along with sources is walking a razors edge on the forums.
Short esters at all in a low frequency pinning cycle will not stabilize levels in any way.
I was only interested where you found the blend of a 350, and I think that each brand will do their own a little differently.
NotNatural23my bad thought u were saying that was the blend of it. I cannot find a answer for the 350 sustanon except form other members or people. I was referring to the whole invention of the original sustanon 250 and why they made it and many have claimed it is flawed n some say it works better to stabilize bloods. I find cyp 2 times. week is the best way I stay stable blood wise. Anyways maybe someone somewhere can show me what is really in that 350 blend for 100% maybe try to contact lab itself.
Sorry if I was unclear, I was just feeling I was treading in dangerous territory referring to brands or sources.
Sustanon will require every other day injections, if not daily, to maintain the most stable levels possible.
One of the sources posted that a particular brand has 200 e, 100 c and 50 p
The problem with that particular blend is two long esters and one short. If not dosed EOD then the prop is going to have your blood levels all over the place.
Exactly my thoughts I just feel that the 50mg prop added in is basically useless at such a low dose
Which begs the question: is it good for non-advanced users? I think not.
+1
On the same page bro. At the end of the day calling it sust is kinda a sales gimic. sounds more appealing then test blend.