Tren Acne?
Does anyone know the direct channel of how you would get acne from Tren? This may seem like a silly question but I'm serious. From what I've researched I gather that most steroid induced acne is due to high androgen conversion to DHT and/or estrogen/aromatization related issues. Also, from what I've found Tren is infact high in androgens however there is no conversion to DHT & it does not aromatize. That leaves me very confused as to how one would get acne from Tren.
I've heard theories that when ran with Test, as you always should, the Tren & Test both fight for the same receptors & Tren will always win, leaving the rest to Test. If the receptors are full, the Test will convert to either DHT or Estrogen. So would the acne come from the Test actually, not the Tren? I'm not sure if this is true or if I'm headed down the wrong path so please correct me if I'm wrong.
The reason I ask these questions is because I'm very very sensitive to acne. The disgusting cystic nodular type. So sensitive that I've had to quit running many compounds mid cycle due to the severity. Also, the more the androgenic the compound is, the worse the acne gets. I've tried many including Test, Deca, EQ, Mast, Dbol, Winny, Anavar, etc. I'm looking for a compound to run that's not going to break me out so bad & allow me decent gains. Any input is greatly appreciated!
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Bro, in reading PIN_CUSHION's comment below my mouse and keyboard led me to look at some of your previous forum posts where I discovered to my HORROR that u have really no cycle history and your fucking around with Tren.
Do u want the Tren lecture from me? It's a good 15 min of non-stop typing. I really regret that I haven't typed it into a Word document so I can just cut and paste.
Time to wise up son. You are being completely irresponsible. Trenbolone is the fucking worst drug in the steroid arsenal. It ranks up there with Halotestin.
So, without any advice from us, you went out there, got your hands on some Tren from God only knows where - I certainly hope it was from one of the top labs on this site - and started in.
Just how much Tren are u taking? How much Test with it? According to your forum posts this is like your 3rd cycle, yet you write:
Really?
U need to gain some serious weight bro. 178? I'm one inch taller than u and I'm 235-240 and I ain't fat. U think a cattle fattening drug is gonna work magic? When was the last time u did labs?
I don't know if you're even salvageable at this point. Your skin and eyes - hopefully no slight yellow tinge yet?
Your piss - is it rust colored yet? How's your cardio? Can u do any, or u just get winded. Sleeping well?
How many weeks are u into this Tren train wreck? Prami or caber working OK? Please don't ask what those are.
U got way more serious issues than acne bro. That's the least of your problems. I regret saying this, but for your sake I hope the Tren rears its ugly side for ya. Can happen at any time of Tren's own choosing. You're cruising along - all is well and then - it strikes. If it does, u won't be thinking about Tren again for years!!!
How's your T3 level doing? As you move through your Tren cycle, it can get lower and lower and lower. Finally, no worries, u can stay in bed all day cause u don't have the energy to get up. So nice!
I have and idea! I know its rare but sometimes I get ideas.
Why don't u just drop the fucking Tren and flush the vials down the toilet?
Bro, I do realize I'm being hard on you, but it's only because I'm truly convinced you don't have an appreciation of what Tren can do to you. You can FR me so we can talk. I don't bite. Eroids is a little different from the other fora on the net. We actually care about the health and safety of our members when using steroids.
Kind regards,
GearHead
To clear the air:
- My cycle history in here isn't current/updated, my bad.
- I'm not currently on Tren, only researching at this point. As you can see I'm curious & have questions.
- I order from the Top 3 exclusively
- My last labs were done mid January with my yearly work physical. Everything checked out except for liver function being slightly elevated due to Accutane. T3 was fine.
- I'm on TRT prescribed Test C 100mg/wk although currently blasting on 500mg Test C only.
- My eyes are bright white & beautiful
- I'm having a hard time packing on mass, I'm currently ~183 lbs.
- I haven't done any cardio in the last month in an attempt to gain weight.
- My piss is yellow in the morning but turns clear by late afternoon. I think that's normal.
- I do know what prami & caber are & why they're used.
I believe that sums up your questions. I appreciate the concern but believe you may have the wrong idea. I'm only researching the compound, as well as others. The info I'm getting, or maybe my interpretation of it contradicts itself. At the end of the day I'm looking for a bulking steroid that either doesn't cause me such bad acne, or find out how to counter effectively the acne causing symptoms of the drug. I have not yet been successful. Any input you could provide is greatly appreciated.
ACCUTANE in my opinion is a last ditch effort. Its a very weird drug.
Too unpredictable for my taste. We use an OTC topical called acne
annihilator. It may not cure yo but it certainly will help you drastically.
Its also very cheap and no sides what so ever.
I am rather sensitive to ache myself and I feel tanning, a good exfoliating body wash, and more frequent showers while on cycle help with this problem, diet can also play a part with ache, and above all keep your estrogen in check on cycle
This is a difficult situation. The type of cystic acne u are describing makes u a candidate for Accutane for sure. Problem there is Accutane is extremely toxic to the liver.
So, in theory, u would want to run a steroid that is minimally toxic to the liver if you should decide to use Accutane. Testosterone alone would certainly qualify. Test is not gonna jack your liver enzymes at all and u can make nice gains on a Test cycle.
U wouldn't want to run any oral steroids while on accutane because they will stress the liver.
Go to the magnifying glass on the top of the screen and search for accutane - there are a number of posts there - should give u some perspective on the pros and cons.
I've used Accutane from low dose all the way up to 100mg/day. Depending on the compounds, even running w/ Accutane 100mg wouldn't rid the acne. It's that bad! At the end of the day I've found that 500mg Test C/wk will provide moderate acne still, but it's somewhat manageable. Unfortunately that's a fairly weak cycle & isn't providing worthwhile gains. That's howcome I'm looking for something new, thus the Tren questions. Do you know the pathway of Tren that triggers the acne?
We talked about this at length. Trying Tren because you don't want acne isn't the cure. You are highly susceptible to acne so you will get it regardless, and 500 mg a week of Test is not weak, and there is no reason you shouldn't make gains with it.
Bro, I have a firm suspicion that NOBODY is gonna give you a pathway (i.e. this metabolizes into that, and that combines with chemical z to produce enzyme H which increases sebum production and blah blah. And, we can shut this all down by taking chemical Z. Ain't gonna happen, bro, sorry.
I do hope I'm wrong though!
Well I just figured someone's gotta know how you'd get acne from it if it doesn't convert to estrogen or dht. Aren't those the two causes (besides hormone fluctuation)? I'm not looking for how to counter the effects per say, although that would be nice, but understand how this compound actually works, if everything I've read about it is infact true. From what I've learned it's possible it may be an excess of testosterone in the Test/Tren combo that's getting converted thus causing the acne. I'm looking at the high tren/low tren theory may be the way to go. Regardless, it's only research. I'm just looking for knowledge/experience with the compound. I do appreciate your input.