posted Thu, 09/24/2026 - 20:52
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Test to NPP ratio
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What is everyone's preferred test to NPP ratio.. some people say one to one ....while some say higher test lower npp and some people say low test and high npp..
Ive usually just ran slightly higher test to npp but just wanted to see what the general consensus is...
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I normally do 2 to 1 since NPP makes me a little moody.
I’ve run Test and NPP a number of times at different doses. Test at 500 with NPP at 300 was a nice mild cycle with decent results and no noticeable sides. I also ran the same cycle and added 300 Mast E. That one was really nice, and my mental state tended to better. The last time I ran 500 Test with 450 NPP. Results were excellent. I didn’t have any boner trouble, but did have a little trouble with my temper at times. The test, NPP, Mast combo at 500/300/300 would probably be my recommendation if you can afford Mast. Otherwise I would think something like 500-600 test/300-400 NPP with an ai would be a good option.
I would start with 2:1 to see how it works for you.
500 test
350 NPP
seemed like a good ratio for me but everyone's different.
Ya thats what im running right now same amount look and feel great so far.
Run test high as can without sides and none or minimal Ai so, then roll back and stage 2 slowly add NPP as high is can without sides next roll back. If you on a 16+ week growth phase you will have plenty of time to dial this in.
It’s a funny compound because how it increases e2 sensitivity. You could be running around 60-80 fine just test and then add nandrolone as be a 44 and be crying with hard ass nips.
Let the test be the cake and the NPP be the frosting
I always run test higher than any other compound in my stack.
This is my off season cycle I have uploaded my cycle log and will be posting updates regularly this starts Monday so excited to see the progression.
My plan is 16 week cycle
Weeks 1-8
720 test
450 mast
300 npp
Weeks 8-12 escalation of the npp
720 test
450 mast
450 npp
Weeks 12-16 Drop out the npp escalate the test + mast and add in 50mg anavar daily to keep up the anabolic load and help with the strength that may Drop off from the npp being dropped out and eek out the last little bits towards the end as the water drops off
900 test
600 mast
50 anavar
Looking forward to your job this is the same compounds on my next cycle.
I've bulked and cut with npp. Gear is just a repair tool. Don't lift and eat towards your goal and it's just oil. Ive run it high and low. Not a real ratio BUT have ancillary on hand just incase.
E2 gets high and prolactin follows. So imo top notch proven Ai and da on hand.
600 test
400 npp
2-300 mast
For adding strength and size
Last time I used for cutting
500 npp
200 test
200 mast
Check e2 of course so its not too low
I keep my e2 30-60. Crashed e2 and you won't grow. High e2 screws up a Lotta things like allowing breastfeeding material to form....mental wellness...bp...fat etc
I also don't like going too long on cycle. Seems to me I stop adding good mass or attaining goals....I cut it off. 12 to 14 weeks. Unless I'm running eq.
I’ve always liked the 2:1(ish) 19nor to test ratio.. I remember a decade an ago that was the standard protocol. Don’t see too many dudes doing that anymore. I personally used to love it, howver, I’ve never ran NPP (but will in the future).
Glad to know this low test style cycle still works, so to speak.
My first npp run was 600test with 300npp. Npp is a bit shorter Ester incase I needed to modify....I could. Even with 300 it was a nice simple cycle. Pinning eod wasn't too hard to do.
2-1 ratio is a good start...yes!
Imo the old days I do remember Lotta folks did 2 to 1 ratio and when they had issues it was suddenly jump on caber or be fighting things off with nolva etc. Getting bloods started to show e2 rose and prolactin did as well. Or a few said their boners wasn't as good. Mast is a dht and dht is responsible for good wood. Doesn't need to be run high really as well.
Deca dick....that's a older saying in roid world. Folks jumped into cycle and got too aggressive without bloods showing the need for Ai or caber at the time. Crushed prolactin causes erectile dysfunction. Crushed e2 causes sex issues too
Or think about before blood tests were as common and folks on nor would have ton of sex...tren typically...couldn't orgasm. High prolactin.
Blood test and prepared is a learning point. Theme thats needed
Really it comes down to what your aim is with the cycle - If you want to bulk and get strong then higher Test or I guess if you don't tolerate Test that well then you will run it lower than NPP. I guess you wouldn't really use NPP to cut - so maybe I am talking Bollocks!!
Lmao the perfect gif for these kinds of questions.
What works for me won’t necessarily work for you. Gotta find your own ratios by testing, documenting, and running bloodwork.
I don’t think I would run test and deca alone unless You are a very low aromatiizer. I would either add in EQ or Primo. If I was forced into it, then maybe 2:1 test:Npp.
Ive just finished a 20 week cycle. 300 Test. 300 NPP. 300 Mast. One of the best cycles Ive done in a long time. Felt good all through it. Had to take aromasin and caber mid way through.