posted Wed, 04/05/2017 - 09:40
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Test levels low considering dose after week 5
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I just wanted to get some people's opinions on why the test levels from my week 5 bloods are on the low end of where they should be. Another member commented on my blood post agreeing they were kinda low for my weekly dose. The source is a good reliable source and the brand as well that I've never had problems with in the past so my question is what factors could also contribute to the test levels not being higher. I pin every other day rotating between left/right glute max and med.
My every other day dose is the following
270mg sustanon
50mg test prop
75mg tren A
.5mg arimidex
Week 0 bloods had my test at 600
Week 5 bloods
Total test 2222
Shbg 6.6
Free test 906.8
Bio test 2077.6
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I get around 4000 total test in week 6 with Test Enanthate 600 (300 2 x week)
RustyhookerHis question was already answered below. 4000 is good
Go back to your post to me and remove the lab name. I wanted the breakdown of how many mg and each type of test in the vial.
I.e
Test decanaote 20mg
Test prop 50mg
Test phenylpropanolamine 25mg
E.t.c e.t.c
Sust 270mg/ml:
Test ace 20mg
Test prop 30mg
Test phenylpropionate 60mg
Test Iso 60mg
Test Deca 100mg
Got it, for that blend, your test is not low at all only 2 of those Esther's are long ones, the deca and iso. So it's about spot on. Ace is in and out, prop is 48 hours phenylprop is 72 hours deca is 21 days and iso is about the same I believe. And if you are doing more prop on top of it I would be suspect of the additional prop. The brand you spoke ofs tests have been to the mg.
Yeah I knew the source/lab was legit. So to close out this argument lol.. if I'm having no sides, seeing good gains and having pretty good bloods running what I am now, is it safe to say I'm good to sail on? I know a lot of people seem to think this was crazy high test but I feel like the bloods suggest it's a pretty good cycle and I'm getting what I want out of it.
If you are making gains, keep going and finish up. Just remember that with the bigger dose that decaoanate takes about 21 days to be out of your system so your PCT has to start about 3 weeks after your last pin.
Holy shit how much proviron you popping that free test is the bees knees
I get around 4200 total and 1250 free On 500 mg test e weekly and 25 mg provi Ed
RustyhookerShhh! Thats the adv user secret....
Op though claims no orals at all and got 900ish. Damn...
No joke the only oral I'm taking is adex eod. Don't think that really counts. I'm assuming it's the extra dose of test prop I'm adding to the sust. My liver function was high pre cycle which was one of the reasons I chose to not take any orals this run.
Sust average per week 945mg
Prop average per week 175mg
Total 1,120mg of test per week
Why are you running so much?
Why is running 1100 considered a high dose?
Because it is a high dose
Your not being serious are you? What are you expecting from 1,120mg that 600mg won't do? Other than giving you side effects and estrogen....
I don't have any sides, not even night sweats maybe a little aggression. Other than that though I have virtually nothing.
Rustyhookerthis too needs answers. +2
Please go see the additional pictures I added over there, these are the numbers from the lab. And I doubt the dose I'm actually getting is anything close to what the vials are labeled, I doubt test would be 2222 at those doses if the drugs were actually dosed adequately
RustyhookerIrishmack caught my error. Your test levels are high. Add em up.
So far I have to agree with you that your gear seems to be under dosed. However, you didn't know that the first five weeks so I'm still not understanding why you are taking so much.
Fact is that you either have under dosed gear or incorrect labs.
He is at 4k. It's not that much off for how much he is on, depends what time of day and last pin because of the prop. STILL low but only by maybe 1500 if dosed properly
You didn't read your test correctly, your doc uses a test my old one did. You take your total and bio and add them. That's why the free test is so high, it's because your computed total is 4k. So you are basically almost on point, still kind of low but it depends when you did the test, was it morning or afternoon?
Ah wow this makes a lot more sense and yeah I went first thing in the morning because I had to fast for some of the other tests.
Did you pin the day before or after the test later?
Pinned the day before went for the bloods on the inbetween day still waiting to get results of estrogen levels.
But as you can see the gear still may be underdosed because the test from last year with 750mg test e and 200mg tren e had higher total and bio numbers so you would assume at 1100mg of test a week those numbers should be higher.
However maybe I'm wrong but how can you consider the dosage of some of the very long esters in sust to be part of that same week if they have half lives longer than a week? I get it from the previous week but also the prop is clearing out after 3 days so I guess that's what makes sust so confusing Bc of all the esters how can you say 1100mg of test a week wih sust is comparable to 1100 mg of test prop or 1100 of cyp or E.
Because sust also has long acting test in it too depending on the ugl. What are the numbers and different compounds per mg?
I said that in my response about the long acting esters and how the combination of short and long can be calculated within the same week as a total weekly dose of test. Isn't test u like a 12 day half life or something like that?
And that's my point because of all the different esters doesn't it make it kinda hard to calculate bloods, I think this is the last time I'll run sust, I may even switch over to either just prop or test e. I got the sust during a promo and figured I'd try it this cycle.
Good points bro
that's a whole lot of drugs. what is your cycle history?
RustyhookerNumbers seem odd.
Which numbers the dose or the bloods?
RustyhookerThe bloods. Free test is nearly as high as final count.
I really don't want to think the gear is bunk I mean the source is always top of the list and the brand is always solid but maybe this batch is weak I don't know. Could it be something to do with the absorbition maybe from pinning only glutes? It's 4 sites though left, right, med and max.
RustyhookerIm just wondering if the test was incorrect. Tren usually skews estro. But the numbers on test levels dont look correct
Free test is 9x greater than normal. Yet 2200 doesnt reflect that.
https://www.healthcare.uiowa.edu/path_handbook/handbook/test1802.html
This is strange last year on 4/3/16 week 5 bloods of that cycle of
750mg test e week
200mg tren e week
Total test 2357
Shbg 6.5
Free test 904.9
Bio test 2214.9
Maybe the lab I use doesn't test correctly I have no idea
RustyhookerI think the lab is screwed or you're not posting your full cycle. Only orals will boost free test near that high. You're 9x as high as the max unaided.
At 750 a week, I'd expect closer to 7500 total.
Nothing your posting looks correct so
A. You're not being honest
B. Your lab is not doing proper testing.
Cite your lab.
No orals only oils. How can I post more than one damn picture per day I'm gonna go screenshot more images from the results it's from an app my doctor uses called Healow. They post my blood work and use it to send messages to the patients. Can you private message pictures? How do I get more than one picture onto this post.
RustyhookerIf you went to dr....theres a cap on medical tests. Therefore the results are not accurate.
Find an independent lab with uncapped results.
Did he post a pic of the lab or are we just looking at numbers he posted? I definitely need to see the actual lab because none of those numbers add up like you see as well, that is someone seriously high free and available, they rarely if ever almost match each other because it's not possible.
RustyhookerHe posted a generic computer pic that doesn't look like any test ive seen.
First question...why are you taking so much test? Why the prop on top of the sust?
The sust dose is too high in my opinion even without the prop.
Yea, I haven't been over 350-400 test since my first cycle which was 500mg/week
Well according to the bloods I'm not taking so much test lol..I had higher numbers on week 5 bloods taking 750 test e and 200 tren e a week the last cycle. I added the test prop because there's 60mg of prop in the sust and I'm trying to be at around 100mg of prop Each injection