posted Fri, 03/08/2013 - 14:35
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test cyp vs test prop
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what kind of results can i get using test prop over test cyp?
looking to avoid the water gain.
any advice would be appreciated.
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Test Cyp for me as a long ester works good w little bloat no matter my diet. However when I use any test I usually will hit it twice a week to keep blood levels stable and not to have that roller coaster effect
For me Prop gives me great pumps training. I also get leaner and harder looking on prop. And not to mention it increases my Labido like crazy
Prop is prob my Fav off all
tread-mAs to results...test is test is test is test. Its still test. My personal preference is a small dose of long ester in trt mode as a stabilizer with my daily prop hits.
Here's how you solve all your poblems around water if that's your issue.
Proper diet
Throw all salt out of your home, shakers , bags and all. Don't buy canned foods or processed foods, only fresh foods in meats, veggies etc....take 25% of the fda daily allowable salt not over that and prefer well under.
Drink 1.5 gal of water ed
Problems solved
Trt test levels should not exceed 1200 btw
when did you have your blood work done after your last shot? 2087 is very high especially for trt. 400mgs a week is a cycle. how do you feel at that level?
You can go SubQ with Test instead of IM. Your doctor had you going SubQ and that is perfectly find. It will good for you to switch up esters and see how your body reacts to fast acting Test. You can always use Adex to control the water retention. I'd run Prop ED over EOD to keep blood levels stable. 400mg a week at TRT dose? Thats a very generous doctor you have there.
yea i just had blood work done levels came in at 2087,that sort of concerns me.it's never been that high.
RustyhookerYou should be very concerned. Figure if a 21yo is around 600.....you're on a full cycle at that level.
prop aromatizes to estrogen at a higher rate
Yah, Aromasin is the only seasoning I use in anything I consume, it's my beverage of choice. I have to hammer on the Aromasin dropper every day, but I am level. It may be just me, but it was worse when all I did was long esters.
Smick. A couple of years ago I started out with Cyp and I was able to keep the bloat under control with a proper diet and exercise that included cardio. I like long esters and have plenty in my AAS cabinet. That said, I much prefer short esters - Prop makes up the bulk of my gear. I cruise on prop and all of my blast cycles typically include prop and other short esters. I can regulate my various blood levels much easier with Prop. Long esters can create a roller coaster effect. But back to your question you can control bloat on Cyp or Ethanate or the others. I have 200 ML of Cyp and Eth on hand so dont get me wrong - I like the stuff and I have a use for it through out the year - when I am traveling and cannot pin every day for example.
As for Prop and PIP you may want to try the lesser concentrated compound of 100MG per ML and stay away from the higher concentrated 250MG per ML. If you choose to run Cyp I suggest twice a week injections and definitely not once per week (or 6-days). Cut your dose and do twice a week. This will enable you to decrease the roller coaster effect of Test etc that once per week injections can produce.
thanks for the info bro.think I'm gonna give the prop a shot.i used pharmacy grade cyp for 3 years at 400 mg a week,and couldn't shake the water.this is my second go round.older and maybe a little wiser.my endocrinologist have me injecting into belly fat area.
Smick: The Doc had you injecting Test into the belly fat area? For sure? When you have a moment please start here: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/step-by-step-i...
Steriods need to be injected into the muscle - Always. Say, go to the forum titled Anabolic Steriods and look at the titles at the top that are hilighted in yellow. All of that is perfect reading material for you and that is why it is there. The subjects highlighted in yellow are called "stickies". Good day to you and dont be shy to ask for help.
Prop will be injected eod it will be more pain full but less water. As for bloat I believe it's up to you diet really and with an ai I never have issue
At 57 I would do some research on trt and cyp. I don't think you would want to inject every other day with the prop. Prop has higher pip then cyp and cyp is a less frequent injection protocol. Go to the 40 and over group and you will find plenty of guys closer to your age. Test in general will increase your libido, well being emotionally, fat loss has been known to take place with the proper diet and routine but not as the only recourse. Cyp is every 6 days compared to jabbing your self every other day.
test prop will give less bloat but have to inject more often. you choose. Cyp bloat isnt that bad IMO. Post your age and stats though like he said. wont matter wihtout stats.