I’m sorry but I disagree with a lot of these statements in clen you use it for ur specific goals drink plenty of water take liver aids and kidney aids cycle off allow ur body to rejuvenate itself and you will be fine donate and speak to you’re doc they can guide you if they’re not loony’s

Recently heard that we are all running clen at too high a dose.

10-15 mg. I am taking ten. Great energy, zero side effects. Increased body temp, restless energy, no cramps or shivers , or major loss of taurine.

I have taken clen on the pyramid cycles and from what my coach said no need to raise clean above 15 mg unless you want bad side effects. And now that I only have taken 10mg I get that. Also, it doesn't lose its ability to burn fat it's just you lose the stimulant feel over weeks and the idea was to bump it higher every few days to defeat this. Seems that's not right.

Try ten mg. Don't go to 80 unless you want shivers and hamstring cramps and general shitty feeling

Also, I feel like your var is super high for a first run with it. I take 20 and have great pumps and steady gains. If you are half way through cycle with zero sides maybe bump it ten and see what's up. Let your body get used to a lower dose of a compound before going up. You start at 80 and then what's next 100? I dont see people getting added benefit above 50 even as a experienced cycle user.

One last thing. Eq on a 2nd cycle I am not ok with. Maybe a deca or an npp, bit in reality most gains can be made with test and that var

Looks like you are trying to run the famous cut and bulk cycle. Doesn't work out as planned unfortunately. Run a mini-cut the natural route to get that body-fat low and then use your cycle for bulking. Get at least under 15% and the more the better before cycle. The lower in bodyfat you are before running a cycle the more muscle you will gain vs fat when bulking, the fatter your are the more fat you will gain vs muscle. You don't need a cycle to cut anymore weight. You are already light enough. Save that cycle for a true bulk if you are going to run one.

mcg not mg for clen, you dose in mg and youre dead lmao. stick with test and maybe throw in anavar for your second cycle. forget clen unless its contest prep. youre not trying to shred down youre trying to make gain and clen works best in a deep calorie deficit

This is your 2nd cycle? Hate to see what your 5th 6th cycle consists of, jesus. I stick to test only now, its something we all have allready. Just increasing it, with good care and keeping on top of your levels. It's safer then what's not necessary.

Personally I don’t think you should add a compound until your no longer making gains.
Then add one.
If you run into a problem you woulnt know which compound it is...

I think as a second cycle. Just do another test only cycle. Do that same cycle until you plateau. Then think about adding other compounds. It just seems these days, people do one test cycle , it goes well. And then BAM. Might as well add 7 more compounds because my first run went fine. Imo stick to the basics until your plateauing then add only one more thing. Slow and steady wins the race.

So roughly you’re taking 600mg test, 600mg eq, 560mg of anavar a week for your second cycle? Not to mention the clen, why do you need that, what’s your goal? Fuck man your kidney is fucked between the eq and anavar, your blood pressure will be high as fuck. And all this at 181lbs, not being a dick but I was that size in high school, about the same height too. Another thing to add, what’s this macro break down? I’m okay with it but explain it. For comparison, my breakdown is P: 23% C: 60% F: 17%, however I still get in 276 grams of protein. If you’re cutting that’s fine, but just explain it.