posted Fri, 05/30/2014 - 11:31
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I've never done steroids before and am hesitant to inject anything at any point... I'm interested in suggestions regarding what I should try as a first timer... Was thinking anabol with an estrogen blocker and possibly clenbuterol to finish up... What are some people's experience and suggestions with maybe some gains, I can expect, how much I should order for a first order and anything else anyone thinks I should know....
Age-32
Height-5'10
Weight- 182
Experience- none
Thank you for your time, for those who choose to respond.
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Thanks guys, yea i know nothing... lol... my body fat% is 18% last I checked... I had been lifting consistently for about 5 years but my diet always sucked so i gained belly with a poop diet and protien shakes.. lol... I havent lifted in a year and honestly im looking for short cuts/ motivation to get back into heavy lifting (not lifting super heavy)... My goals are modest... Beach body, nothing competetion or anything, just want to look good and feel healthy... I have been bouncing around the idea of injectables, because i know my testosterone levels have dropped in the last couple of years. So Im not completely closed to the idea... There were a group of friends I had who started cycling and their short progress crushed my years of working out which was part of the reason I gave up... I really appreciate everyone's feedback... I am completely open to suggestions and will absolutely spend my time reviewing the stickys before doing anything at all....
AnonI guaranfuckingtee if you eat and train correctly staying natural your results will blow away those idiots who are running gear that I assume, since it's a "Group", don't know what the fuck they are doing.
When they come off the gear they will lose 100% of the gains without a knowledge base built on nutrition & consistent training. All 5 pounds of it rofl.
If you lifted for 5 years and didn't maximize your natural potential you didn't train or eat right. Which is OK, just know that now and move forward…. learn.
Steroids are not magic. They will only work IF you eat and train correctly, training is the easy part diet is hard. That's what separates the people who look the same month after month and the guys who blow the f*ck up in 6 months with or without gear.
To summarize….taking steroids without eating/training correctly won't work. Flat out. It's a waste of your time & money I've seen multiple "friends" do cycles and go nowhere… because they won't fking eat or stay consistent. No base = doomed to fail.
Good read....
RustyhookerOn point!! +2
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5'10"@ 182lbs? You can get to 200lbs without anything and just like everyone said below. Stay away from clen! The stuff is hott garbage get that out your head you'll thank us later. In the mean time post up what you wanna accomplish and everybody will do their best to help. Personally I think your nowhere close to being ready for this. I say spend more time reading im talking totally emersing yourself about the subject along with training.
Body fat percentage?
How many years training?
I started with orals about 15 yrs ago and I can say without a doubt that I wish I would not have taken them. The previous comments to research are valid. The fact that your not willing to inject Test but ARE willing to take Clenbuterol reflects the fact that ya need to read a lil more. I'm not flamin ya buddy.
Clenbuterol kills uninformed people. Hell It kills "experts" too.
All anabolics come with inherent risk. For a "first timer" that refuses to use injectables and is gonna use orals regardless, you may look into non methylated orals like Stano or LMG and study up on PCT.
You will need PCT.
Best of luck buddy.
P.S. stay away from the clen.
First, dump what you have and clear your mind of what you've learned so far. Then spend some time reading the yellow highlighted posts at the top of each forum topic. There are plenty of "first time cycles" there. Use the magnifying glass to research further.
More importantly, do you even lift? How long? Also, how is your diet? What are your goals here?
Pinning is literally painless and stay away from clen with questions like this you aren't ready to cycle anytime soon
Stay away from clen that shit is nasty . Go to magnifying glass up top type first cycles do some research then post up here what u learn. Then we can help ,find out what pct is that's more important than the cycle u run most times. Find out what an ai is and what it does . Post up your proposed plan here. Spoon feeding u answers won't help u right now but research and knowledge will. Plus like said below post your body fat and how long u been working out
If u can't pin it's not time
Well first off that cycle is a complete disaster.
What is your BF%?
How long have you been training for?
Spend some time reading the stickies on the forums and you will learn a lot.