+ 1 Stacking orals precontest- safe? pointless?
First off, don't take this post out of context and assume this is something I would do without researching and seeking the opinions of others first.
That being said, I commonly hear a lot of people contest prepping (both on forums and in real life) who run two, sometimes even 3 orals, for a duration while dialing in their physiques for a show. Is there any valid reason to do this? Is there something a combo of orals can do that just adding more/another injectable cant? I can't seem to wrap my head around it.
For example, my friends coach is telling him it to run var and winny together at 50mg each a week for the final 8 weeks of his prep. Then potentially add anadrol for that last week or two to fill out. I know var is extremely mild (it doesn't even effect my liver values, only lipids a little bit), but would the combination with another oral like winstrol and/or anadrol just multiply the negative effects? Why not bump the mast dose a little bit instead of the winstrol or something more safe. I understand why anadrol is used, but again, is there something that the combination of all of these orals has that is better than, suppose, just running a little more tren or mast etc?
Unless there is some sort of synergy that they can add I don't get the point. Remember these guys are taking all of these orals on top of test/tren/mast combos, hgh, the whole 9 yards. I just don't see the point of adding multiple orals on top of everything unless there is some sore of synergistic effect that is unknown to me. Something that also might be compromising safety.
I'd love to hear what you guys think on this.
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Can't really top Gearhead's answer. Contest prep being more of a personal response to certain compounds, and achieving a certain look. it becomes a game of chemicals, as a competitor I'm sure you already have a decnt amount of experience when it comes down to compounds and manipulating your look.
Some guys achieve a certain look combining compounds, others only use the one. Some use plasma expanders others don't. It differs per guy. I think you just have to find out what works for you and what look you're going for. Combine it with your own personal experience.
Some guys swear by combing certain orals. For fat burning I've only ever used the good old tren/masteron combo leading up. Anadrol to fill out. Do I promote this for everyone? No. But I prefer Masteron over var, over winny, even over proviron (I personally find for me it can replace all three).
I prefer Anadrol to Dbol, combined with glycerine to fill out, the effects are good for me in terms of what I'm looking for.
Also I guess each coach must have his reasons. It could also be just for the sake of it, covering all bases for example. This would just depend on the coach. I personally have a reason for the things I use, and when to use them, and I guess that's the same for most.
Gearheads explanation is spot on so i have nothing more to add to the topic but this...... some of the kids who are already members on here and a lot of the noobs post up cycles with massive stupid dosages listed that not even my comp guys are using..... and they are all extreme stage monsters......
Work that shit out... i had dinner with a guy yesterday who works with and currently trains with dorian yates who laid his current stack out for me...... granted it consisted of a peptide arsenal but the steroids (3 compounds) did not add up to one gram.
This is not a BS blanket statement it is the truth that i swear on my life.
Winstrol + halo, oral stack pre contest makes you hard as nails.
Anadrol for fullness and you're good to go
You may wanna post your stats and hang out for a while before promoting an oral stack, not a good first impression.
I want more input on this. Ive asked for help planning a precontest cycle without using tren recently. I know some of you guys have a lot of info on this lol
WithdrawlMy friend uses winstrol and anavar and halotestin the last few weeks of prep and going into the show but he cuts out test tren and hgh and just runs masteron as far as injectables go. He does have to be super careful about water retention and I think it's because he puts a lot of stress on his liver by taking orals his entire cycle. Like gearhead said, everyone is different. You want to watch out for liver toxicity as it can cause water retention and intestine inflammation. I personally think a less is more approach is better. I've been learning that over the last year. I'm going to stack two orals pre contest but it will be winstrol and proviron. Nothing too harsh and it will only be for 4 weeks at the most. We'll see how it goes.
Bro, contest prep cycles are constructed with such tight outcomes in mind that comparing any of them to cookie cutter bulk and cut stacks is disingenuous and misleading. If the BB has not allowed himself to turn into an amorphous blob in the off season - the duration of the prep is not going to be that long anyways.
Every prep cycle is tailored to that athlete and the specific issues he faces getting ready for the stage. Yes, there are reasons to combine multiple orals that have specific synergistic stacking capabilities. Does it enhance the athletes health? No.
Liquidzgreat answer bro
both sides of coin
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