Second Cycle Help
Hey guys, I'm going to be starting my second cycle pretty soon and wanted your opinion on what the cycle is going to look like.
Im 24
215lbs
15% bf
Been lifting for 5 years.
My first cycle was 500mg Test E for 10 weeks along with dbol kickstarter at 50mg ed for 4 weeks. My pct was standard clomid/nolva.
So this time around I will be running Test Prop as kickstarter and will be running Sustanon instead of Test E (I got a real good deal on the Sustanon). I also wanted to end with Test Prop so I can start pct quicker. This is what it would look like.
Test P @100 eod Week 1-4
Sustanon @ 200 eod Week 1-10
Test P @ 150 eod Week 11-13
HCG @ 500IU every week Week 2-13
Aromasin @ 12.5mg ed Week 2-13
Pct will be 3 days after last pin and this it what it will look like.
Clomid 100/100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20/20
My goal for this cycle is to get crazy lean while retaining as much muscle as possible.
What do you guys think... am I good 2 go?
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Thanks everyone for your input.
@Hamifish, I was thinking about that but since im going to start pct 3 days after last pin I didnt think it would be necessary. There is a lot of controversy on either running hcg on cycle or after so im just going to go with during so that the boys dont fully shut down.
@irongame247, I would be running the aromasin eod but I found out im prone to gyno on my first cycle. Id rather be safe than sorry.
@Goldmember, like @vitamin said.. there is only 30mg prop per ml in the sustanon and Im only taking .8ml sustanon so there isnt enough prop to consider it optimal imo. Thats why I added the extra prop kickstarter, to get things rolling.
@grygst72, thanks for the concern brother but I already made up my mind when I started my first cycle that tyis is something im going to do. Just trying to go about it with the most safe/optimal approach.
@GearHead, thanks for your post man.. I looked in to keto a while back but thought it was insane how low your carbs have to be. It might be something worth looking into though as I really want to get "crazy lean". Even if I decide not to start with keto, I think it can be a valuable tool when I start to see the fat isnt coming off as easily.
And if anyone is interested, the reason for getting "crazy lean" is for a photoshoot where I will be shirtless for the most part.
Once again thanks for all your input guys. This is my first forum post on here.
Looks good bro. The only thing I would change is I'd peg 5000 iu hcg 5 days after last pin just to give my balls a wake up call........HEY NUTS quit hanging around and get the fuck back to work!!!!!
Looks pretty good to me bro. I ended my last cycle with prop to and it worked out well. I don't know your body but you might be able to do the aromasin eod at the dose, but like i said I don't know your body so you might need the 12.5 ed.
Goldmemberisn't there prop in your sust?
Yeah but its only a poxy 30mg
Your goal should be to eat more quality food; dropping the aas for a few more years; and train natural. Let your body fkn grow instead of stunting it.
When did you run your last cycle? How much weight did you gain and keep? What's your diet look like?
Ended Pct for my last cycle about 3 months ago. Gained 27lbs, kept 19-20lbs.
Diet is really clean right now at 2800 calories, im just trying to maintain.
Im having 40p/40c/20f for my macros and getting at least 80% of my protein from meat.
I plan to go down to 2300 calories when I start my cycle.
I would like to go on a bigger deficit but I dont want to risk losing muscle.
Bro, u r going to have enough gear in you to not concern yourself with catabolic issues. If u want to drop further than 500 cal below maint u can. I could get u into full ketosis and u would still be able to put on some lean mass. In fact, a ketogenic diet might be worth taking a look at if you really want pure fat loss and to harden up. It is a demanding diet, but it sheds fat like nothing else does. Your words "crazy lean" - at least take a look at:
http://thisiswhyyourejacked.com/dave-palumbos-ketogenic-diet/
Full fat adaptation will take about 30 days. Your strength and energy will dip and then come back in full force once your body gets accustomed to a virtually unlimited energy source - your dietary fat and body fat. Anybody that competes on this board has probably done this more than once. But, you will say - how can I build muscle and train with no direct source of carbs. You will be amazed. And, there is always CKD, if u can't handle it steady state. I am a believer in cheat meals. A few carbs before a heavy back or leg day ain't gonna kill the diet.