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I'm 20 years young, 165 lbs, and am two months clean from my first cycle, which was solely just a 10 ml vial of sust 250. After my first cycle i was at 180 lbs and my strength gains were through the roof. Now with this being my thoughts on a second cycle, what do you guys recommend a young man such as myself to try? I know I'm really young, but I just want some thoughts and ideas.

macklroy3's picture

You need to listen to these guys fellas. I thought I was fairly informed from friends that use and just browsing these forums from time to time over the past almost year. I can't begin to make you understand that you can ALWAYS learn something from reading these forums. I'm a smart guy and I still feel like a kindergartener reading some of these forums. Point is, there is a TON of reading you need to do before you even consider an ACTUAL cycle (not 1 bottle of shit here and there). Read up guys. I'm not going to tell you to not do a cycle (cus you prob will anyhow) but please be safe. You will be thankful 10 yrs from now.

devind33's picture

no worries guys me and my buddy are simply gonna run 10ml of deca 250 each with lots of whey protein, food, carbs, gym sessions, etc. I got nolvadex for pct.

youngvisu's picture

Damn! Nobody wants to encourage kiddo. Alright, I know u are goin to do this anyway so here goes my opinion on stack in 3 weeks: dbol orals and 1 winstrol vial... and for pct-take nolvadex. Peace out and good luck showing off to ya friends at the beach... lol

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Cant remember last time i downvoted anyone in steroids sections... but this my friend is the worst fucking advice you could ever give... 2 fucking 17aa oral compounds to a 20yr old... are you out of your tiny fucking mind... if i was a MOD i would ban you for crap info like this... in fact it is downright fucking dangerous.

-3 karma and i will be watching your ass like a fucking hawk from now on... anymore shit advice like this and i will push the mods to ban your ass.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

This is the perfect stack for you.............

1 - PROTEIN.

2 - CARBS.

3 - CREATINE.

4 - HEAVY TRAINING.

5 - REPEAT THE ABOVE OVER AND OVER AGAIN UNTILL YOU REACH 195/200LBS.

6 - DONT COME ASKING FOR CYCLE ADVICE UNTIL YOUR BALLS HAVE DROPPED LMFAO!.

macklroy3's picture

Haha, good stuff.

devind33's picture

Wow. A lot of different answers and opinions, but first things first. I am not trying to get ridiculous results by the time I go to the beach in 3 weeks. Just want my test/ stack before hand. And I'm going to do right with pct this time around. Here's some basic info: 6'0" 165. Usual gym weight is around 170. Got up to 180 on first cycle of just Sust 250. Only took 1cc per week for 10 weeks. I have been
A dedicated gym rat for nearly 2 years now and had tried everything imaginable to maximize my strength gains and mass. Implementing roids was never an option until in April I decided I wanted to try it. So I did not rush into my first cycle and am not trying to rush into my second cycle either. Just want some helpful advice on a good second cycle test/oral/stack. Please and than you all for chiming on. All feedback is welcome.

power_house's picture

well like i said below you dont need to do this but your already going to so, you dont need a test /oral stack for one.. one compound is fine, if you going to run something run the cycle i posted below. dont mess with orals bro you dont need them when you can get the same/better results with other things.. be smart

manbearpig's picture

so you are out of shape, young, and want results in 3 weeks... do you know what good ole diet and exercise will do for you? try that first

power_house's picture

dude ill be straight up with you, you dont need to do another cycle but i know hard headed people like you and your going to do it anyways. so ill give you some advice on a cycle if you want to take it. it's simple and easy dont make it out to be harder than this, you really should just eat a shit ton 4500-5000 cals aday for these three weeks and you wil see a great results, but with that being said and you dont want to do that do this

1-4/5 wks test prop every other day 150mg
3 days after your last shot do you pct nova 40.40.20.20 clomid 100.100.50.50
be done there, no need to do anymore because it seems that you just want to get blew up alittle before the beach and tell everyone your juicing.
you should really just consider not doing this and eating great and heavy for the weeks leading up to your trip. anyways your young and you need advice take that for what its worth to you ..

devind33's picture

I didn't necessarily have any kind of treatment for pct. Should have used clomid or nolvadex, but knew absolutely nowhere i could buy either from. I just reduced my injections from 1cc to half a cc

OmNom's picture

You lucked out, get you blood checked and see how your natty test is if you didn't do PCT, I've gotten away with that crap once or twice when I was younger and trust me it will come back to haunt you. Don't screw around with PCT, it's MORE important than you cycle. PCT defines what you KEEP from your cycle HERP DERP

fast48's picture

Stay natty til 25 and boost that 180 to 210....then cycle.

devind33's picture

I know I should, but I want to give it one last shot... then I'll sit it out for a couple years possibly. Just want to get my mass and strength gains up more than ever. Going to the beach in 3 weeks. Wanna order by tomorrow. Just need to know of any good first time/second time cycles or stacks? Help me please people.

eatbig's picture

"Going to the beach in 3 weeks. Wanna order by tomorrow.", you are way too young and don't relize how much info there is out there. Do a lot of research untill your properly ready for a cycle. If you cant naturally be ready for the beach in three weeks or at least be going forward and making gains at the age of 20 where your natural test levels are high then you don't need to cycle and your wasting your time and money and destroying your bodys ability to create test on its own especially with no pct. You'll figure it out when its too late..... smh

fast48's picture

3Weeks! You want a miracle in three Weeks its called stairmachine for 1.5hrs a day. Howd you pct your cycle?

OmNom's picture

You're 2nd is your last cycle for a few years LOLOLOL??????? BULLSHIT I CALL IT!! No srsly juicing is addictive and no i don't mean like alcohol.. If you don't stop now your going to do it again and again and again.. A lot of the guys on here did it when they were young and now have to blast and cruise or basically NEED it to bulk because they're natty test will never be the same.. Frankly it's your call but you won't get SHIT in 3 weeks, even if you took the most toxic monstrous cycle imaginable you would just bloat up like a balloon with tits to match the chicks at the beach.. Find a stair climber like fast said and lean up.. You can do that natty in 3 weeks ezpz with diet?