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Replacing Dbol for kickstart bulking?

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I have seen a few posts lately advising people to stear clear of dbol as a kickstart.
I'm guessing due to the fact that one rarely makes or keep any quality gains from it and alot of water retention. I know i never really have just bloat and gain a little strength. I do know that i like to see some quick gains from it even though as i said before, i never really keep them.
So, i guess this is just a general question applying to the common Test, decca or NPP cycle. I was wanting to hear from some of the vets about which compounds would be a good replacment for kickstarting a bulking cycle, Suspension, prop? I plan on using suspension for my kickstart mainly because have 3 bottles laying around and someones gotta due SOMETHING we em,lol. Any advice or feedback would be much appreciated fellas. Smile

fast48's picture

I've started with dbol kicker n ended with Winny tabs and good pct. It's been documented that water loading can also help in anabolism. Allowing cells to hold more nutrients. which is why products like creatine were made. Dbol also boosts strength through the roof. Ive not read where keeping all the gains from dbol were accomplished but that'd why its a kick start. Loads water and strength.

brandoc84's picture

I agree with ya fast. My first cycle actually was dbol, test and decca, and the dbol at 25 mge ed was phenominal. Square pink pills with BD on them... british dragon or british dispensary?? Cant remember. Being my first cycle and having gains like i did i absolutley loved it, but every cycle since then the gains from dbol seem to be very sloppy and watery. I think i will stick with short ester oils from now on. At least for a while.

fast48's picture

Light cycles with long Esters still work great for me....but I'm also really short. Winny worked the times i used it. The pumps were immediate n almost painful. After using offbrand sust and a Winny the props made me nervous. Five days no walking right sucked. Found better suppliers on this site. Going with prop kickstart. Eq....mast e and Winny tabs. Dry cutter.

Dbol has the water loading but its fun to grab any weight easy. Goals help guide your choices.

jpal's picture

test p or suspension will work you could also look into tbol