posted Thu, 04/07/2016 - 19:03
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question taking test E 250 with deca 250
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So I started cycle about three weeks ago, I wanted to do 350 of test E a week and do 400 of deca a week but I am having trouble measuring it and was hoping someone could help me out also do you think I should up the test to 500 a week? I been noticing my nipples hurting occasionlly.
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CoblerIve always used my test higher than deca. Anybody tried low test high deca?
Rick GrimesBeen away for a while and starting a new cycle( have 3 cycles under my belt,but not properly done as im learning what ive done wrong). Starting test_e 250 with decca 250 next week. Planning on 500test with 250 decca a week. Never ran any ai,s before and never had any gyno or any problems with my tits. As I stated before ive ran stupid high doses of aas before(not knowing what I was doing obv.)&never had any gyno or lactating problems. Im 34 5`10" ,195lbs. Any advice on critiquing this cycle and what should I do for a pct & any opinions on hcg? Ty guys very much.
You need to start your own forum post instead of taking over this one.
Brother you need to get your hands on an AI like arimidex or nolvadex, like f'ing yesterday!! That nipple thing is not what you'd call a "good time" unless you plan on making some big orders from Victoria's Secret bras real f'ing soon!
Lmao thanks
RustyhookerI'd chat with Pin below. Second cycle, no current stats or pix, no goals and you have NO idea what you're doing
Hey rusty yes I just started and I didn't know I was suppose to post stats and pix this is why I am here trying to gett all the knowledge to play it safe that way I can pass on the knowledge to someone else you know..
Before you wreck yourself. I would stop the Deca, You're obviously not prepared. It's a long ester and is still going to be hanging around for a couple weeks. You were taking more of it than Test so that's not helped you at all. You don't have any A/I's, or DA's. Your last cycle was Prop (which is not typical for a first cycle) and Winny. So you don't even know how your body is going to react to Test alone. Learning from your mistakes is one thing, but don't make it any worse.
What do you have for PCT and how much?
Pin I don't wanna wreck my for sure I am here to gain more knowledge on something that I thought I knew about I spent alot of hours doing research and obviously I don't know as much as I thought I did I think we all can say that has happened to the best of us..
60 caps clomid , so your saying juat to stop taking deca and to continue with test? I am seeing pretty good results right now it's my third week just when I get the chills or cold my nipples get really hard and occasionally hurts a slight pain, I thought the dosage was good I thought running 500 of test and 400 was to much was I wrong?
Ok so I'm assuming they're 50 mg a piece? If so you are good with Clomid. Get some Nolva as well at least 840 mg total. Standard PCT. That's good you are seeing results, but just three weeks it's not from Deca. Your Test is starting to reach peak levels. So yes I would still stop Deca. If, and only if, you can get some A/I's in the next week to week and a half I would just finish your cycle with Test. At this point even if you stopped all together you are more than likely still going to need some form of PCT. You start getting gyno symptoms the further along in your cycle the harder it's going to be to control. Get some Adex and some Aromasin if you can. Research both and how to take them. Determine which of the two you want to take. All is not lost if you act now.
Also, in the future ask before you start your cycle ;)
Also should I continue to run test at 350 375 or 500
If you have enough for 500 a week I don't see a problem with that.
Your right pin I appreciate it bro
bigmurphCan you explain a little better about why you're having trouble is it the way the mg are dosed? Are you going to up the test to stop your nipps from hurting or are you just wanting to up the test also when are you getting your blood work done.
Sup big,
So yea I am having trouble measuring the dose since both are 250mg , just wanna make sure I am taking proper dosage since I am trying to do 350 of test and 400 of deca just been estimating it from 1 cc down to half not sure if measuring correctly. Will I was just thinking of uping test not cause of nipple hurting , I have doctor appointment next week.
bigmurphI run my test at 375 because of the fact that it is dosed at 250 so I run 3x 125 or 1/2ml. The decca is im guessing dosed the same just do the same 1/2ml 3x and you will end up with 375mg its not 400 but its close and then you know where you're at.
What are your previous cycles is this first one?
Have you ran decca before
Also with your nips what is your ai that you use and at what dose.
Also what is your whole cycle meaning how many weeks. Is it just the test and decca any orals. Are you running anything like caber or prami
Oh ok I see what you mean, my previous ones were test prop and win that was last year , and yes this is first time with deca, I am not taking ai and I don't or ever had sign of gyno , I am trying to bulk up and gain strength, I am doing teat for 12 weeks and deca for 8, I am taking injectables that is all and trying to eat right any pointers would be great
bigmurphYou should always have an ai and something for progesterone which is what decca will have build up in your system like test builds up estro. Im going to be honest it doesn't sound like you were ready for this cycle. You say that you're not prone to gyno but you say your last cycle was prop and winny Winstrol has some estro and progesterone blocking abilities so that might have helped you last time but now with the longer ester and nothing to help control it your estro is probably running high but only blood work can prove that.
My pointers would definitely be get atleast an ai and get that blood work before you end up with some gyno issues that you cant reverse.
Good luck with it i definitely wouldn't raise your test without blood work and an ai.
You do have your pct together right
Where have you read this?
bigmurphYou are completely right i swear I read it somewhere but it must be wrong because I just read up on it and there is no mention of it effecting progesterone or estrogen in any way.
Thats a neg on my part I deserve it but I know I read it somewhere but somewhere was wrong and so was i.
I was just curious, because I hadn't seen that anywhere. I'm not going to neg you.
bigmurphThe hoff says its true I new I had read it somewhere he says its in the outlaw muscle forum.
I went back and read the steroid.com and it doesn't mention it so now I don't know if its true or maybe just bro science.
Also thanks for not neg me
bigmurphOn a few of the descriptions of it on the different src sites. Also I believe its steroid. Com has it in tbere description saying that it has progesterone and estrogen blocking abilities
The HoffIt is also listed on the Out Law Muscle forums steroid profile for Winstrol. I believe it to be true. I think its more like a proviron. Not as strong as Caber or an AI.
It does lower SHBG like proviron, but I don't know that it has A/I properties. Interesting.
bigmurphSo you have seen this also I thought I was wrong because I went back and read it again and didn't see it but I new I have read it somewhere before.
Thanks hoff I thought I was losing it
Rustyhookerx2
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/ais-and-serms-during-cycle-d...
thought this was a good thread check it out
bigmurphI actually completely agree with this because estro is important in building muscle. I personally don't take an ai usually I use Proviron. But I always keep one on hand just in case. I have a bunch of caber prami and aromasin. I completely agree with the fact you don't have to take an ai I just strongly believe that you should always have it on hand just in case. I actually don't have to even read that thread I recognize it. I love that you posted that.+1
Thanks bro, I will still get it just like you said( just in case)its crazy just when you think you know it all and done so much research there is always someone that knows alot more cause I didn't know that about using ai during cycle helps gyno, I just thought making sure you do a pct so that you don't have gyno issues and to get those test levels back to normal.where I live noone knows that someone that has or knows about doing a cycle , all the knowledge I gained was from doing alot of research I love that eroids has options like this to ask questions and people like u can answer.
bigmurphBrother thats why I love eroids so much I know alot but there Is still so much I don't know plus I can put up my cycles and have guys like me give me the constructive criticism that I need to run it perfect.
This place is amazing stick around keep in touch shoot me a fr request if you want
Cool man I will for sure stick around
Cool man I will for sure stick around
Ok I will do that bigM, but even when I was on prop and winn my nipples were super hard and hurt as well my nipples arr hard all the time but are worse when on cycle thats when begins to hurt , yes I have pct for sure.