posted Thu, 09/17/2015 - 07:29
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Pulsing dbol with Sust
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I was thinking about pulsing dbol 50mg daily, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off for my winter bulker instead of typical 4 week kicker. I will be running 750mg Sust weekly. My question is about AI. Should I adjust adex dose while taking dbol?
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I was wondering about pulsing D-Bol. Running sus as well at 600 with NPP at 400. Finishing up week 4 shit feels great. Did you notice better gains with the pulsing vs 4 week front load?
Its a 9 year old post mate - I doubt you will get an answer from him.
That’s fair I didn’t even see the time stamp haha.
Start the dbol at a lower dosage of around 30mg per day if your worried about estrogen build up rather than go in head first at 50mg per day as you may find the lower dosage will not cause a need for an AI or you could run proviron throughout your cycle just as a slight inhibitor...only you will know how you react to compounds and estrogen from past cycle experience?
Keep things simple as there really is no need to start complicating cycles
I always start a blast cycle with 4 - 5 of prop to give me a kick up the ass and at 100 eod while waiting for the long ester to cut in..
If your sust is dosed at around 250mg per ml then you will also get some sort of kick from the short ester..
Split the sust dosage over 3 times per week so that your not getting peaks and troffs from the short ester
All the best
agreed with below, i pulse my anadrol and dbol when incorporated in a cycle, anadrol is easier to gauge sides etc, there is a few tricks of the trade that can be used, but it would be unorthodox to put out in open forum, i sometimes stack my anadrol and dbol together and pulse them, there is a few reason why pulsing is beneficial, one being toxicity and health related issues, you really gotta know how your body reacts with orals like this, not only from experience, but you need bloods as well whether it would be 2 on 2 off, 3 on 2 off etc etc, you have to check your liver values and lipids, but the "time off" in the pulsing is helping the liver catch up and hopefully re-generate itself a bit, this time is good for your proper liver supps, gyno, estro etc etc is just a quarter of it, but in this instance i would just do the kicker, maybe try a pulse next time, maybe use something more mild to gauge how you respond. good luck
Thank you all for helping me reach the decision to use it only as a 4 week kicker. I do not want to make my cycle overly complicated when in reality there is probably no need to do so yet. I do not think I am overly sensitive to estrogen, but I would hate to invite any issues.
Good luck with your cycle. I just got done with a cycle with sust at 750mg/wk and really enjoyed it.
Thank you! I am definitely getting anxious. Another month to go.
If you're running dbol and using adex, you run the risk of estrogen rebound when the adex lets go. Aromasin is a suicidal AI so no rebound. Easier to control E2 on dbol with aromasin in my opinion. My two cents.
This is where AI use gets tough and really this type of technique is an advanced one as a result. Depending on how sensitive to estro you are you may have to. Unless you're really dialled in, you're going to get some fairly major peaks and troughs and potential issue that can arise as a result.
This could be a reason why you don't hear many people pulsing dbol, to many peaks and troughs throwing the hormones out of whack and making for some nasty sides? Might be best to just run the dbol straight for 4-5 weeks and keep the hormones leveled out.
I'd agree. Dbol can catch anyone out irrespective of experience level, let alone when used in this fashion.
Pulsing it that way I wouldn't adjust AI dose. I am pulsing adrol that way and I keep my dose constant at .5mg Adex EOD and haven't ran into any problems.
If it was drol I'd agree but dbol is going to make a bigger impact on estro and faster too.
WadeBEEWhat is your current Adex dose with the Sust? Dbol aromatizes fairly quick, but AI does is dependent on the person and varies from one person to another, start low like .25 EOD and gauge it from there. Masteron in my opinion beats ADEX on ALL aspects, but that's my opinion. You don't want to completely kill estro because it is necessary for growth and mood. I personally don't use any AI unless running a gram of test or more.
Haven't started yet. Next month. Was planning on .5 EOD starting week 3. I will pull bloods at week 5 to see what's up for sure. Just have heard and read about so many nightmares from dbol skyrocketing estrogen.