Persistent Test Flu (going into 5th week)
Hi Guys,
I'm on my first cycle, doing 500mg Test E shot once a week for 12 weeks and 40mg Dbol split morning and night for the first 5 weeks.
Ever since the first shot I've been experiencing test flu. A little description below of how long its been persisting for each time
Week 1 - 5 Days Flu Symptoms
Week 2 - 3 Days Flu Symptoms
Week 3 - 5 Days Flu Symptoms
(at this point as it got worse again instead of better I changed to Test Cyp and started doing two shots a week of 250mg)
Week 4 - Symptoms alleviated to about 20 - 30% of the severity. But as I am shooting twice a week, I am feeling average all week now,
Week 5 - (Mixed half Test E, half Test Cyp for my first shot this week on the advice of a friend. Seemed to make it slightly worse)
As I am halfway through week 5, I'm thinking there is definitely something wrong. The gear itself is being used by a bunch of people I know with no issue. A lot of them are shooting much higher amounts than me also. I've had my bloods done in around week 3/4 and doc has said everything looks fine, test levels are about double what they were a few months prior to starting and Estrogen was <70 I think, was told normal is <150. I was taking .25 Arimidex ED for about a week at this stage but stopped as I don't think its necessary.
Any help is much appreciated as I'm fkn dyyyyying over here!
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Ok so finally got a new copy of my bloodwork from a few weeks ago.
In the meantime I switched from Test Cyp to Sustanon250 and my flu problems went away immediately. PIP is non existent also where I was limping most of the week from the other stuff. It is the same brand. All I can say is thank fuck!
I've posted the bloods below, they were taken while still on dbol and after having run .25 Arimidex ED for 8 days. I've since stopped the dbol and am now taking it E3D.
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If I am reading that test right. Your total test isn't anywhere near what it should be for 500mg/wk. You are still with the normal range. That number should be pegged high. Only thing that has changed is your SHBG has gone down and your free test has jumped up because of that. Lot of things can do that other than AAS. I am thinking your test is bunk or severely underdosed. Total T should be way higher.
I'd say I'm around 14-15% BF.
I only started taking the Adex because I was worried about gyno in week 3 for about 8 days, little bit of confusion about tender nips in advice from a friend. They weren't really that tender but I noticed they were a little different so started taking just in case. I've stopped the Adex altogether, do you recommend taking it and if so what dose? I did notice my libido was lagging and it perked up a bit when taking the Adex.
The doc did know I was on cycle.
Please address Dacky's statement below regarding Estrogen measurement on bloodwork. Thank you!
The standard dose and regimen for Adex is 0.25mg p.o. e3d. However, we are all different and it could take more or less. It looks like you've been off of it for a couple weeks. I would start it at the dose and frequency I mentioned above.
Please post BF%.
.25mg Adex every day is a hefty dose. Estradiol can be a little higher than 40, but 70 is pushing it, imo. Normal range for E2 on cycle is 30-40. Everybody is different, too.
If you can post your BW, I can look at it to determine any inconsistencies/abnormalities/shifts that may have been overlooked.
When did you start your AI?
Did your doc know you were on cycle?
Thanks.
OP should clarify the unit of measure being used for the E2 reading and the reference range. Actually it would be good to see a pic of the blood work so we could take a look at CBC, liver, renal and electrolytes. OP post this up and we can go from there.
Thumbs up...good looking out...
I seem to have lost a few sheets from my bloodwork. I'll give the doc a call tomorrow and see if I can get him to email me the results.
Yeah just been trying to harden up and deal with it since I'm enjoying the gains ;)
So if its the oil my best bet is to try a different brand then?
And I wouldn't have thought it's the dbols since the symptoms begin the night of each shot.
GnarkillCheck that dbol bro I hate dbol as plenty of people know here but like testrogen said below could be the oil. it's all different with people if you feel that bad I'd drop it and pct or yo bwill be pushed away from aas. 6 weeks feeling like shit man your dedicated lol check oils check dbol witch you should be done with already though (4 weeks) other then that seek a doctor good luck man
Testrogen_PropC...You may be having a reaction to the oil you're shooting. When I change brands I've only had the test flu for a week or maybe a week and a half tops. At 5 weeks I'd say something else is going on.
Gnarkill+1 brother if he's still on dbol that's probably what it is I would think but I'm no doctor