posted Sun, 01/20/2019 - 12:40
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+ 1 Old Gear...how long? Is it safe to use?
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Hey everyone. Been outta the game for a while but now I'm back. I have a bunch of gear from about five years ago available. It's it still good? Can I get some ideas? Thanks everyone.
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If it feels wrong ......don't do it ;)
I have tested gear that was expired 5 years past the expire date that was still 100% label strength. As long as the rubber stopper doesn't deteriorate in vials, I think its fine. Orals can literally last forever if stored well.
Alphamale500Hey bro. Just to be clear, I'm not advising you to use the gear in question. I only meant to give some general points about the subject. Please disregard the last sentence of my previous comment. If you're having real doubts as to whether your gear is still good or not, then your best bet is to just toss it.
RustyhookerIf youre not sure....might sit back and relax?
Alphamale500You're 100% right. I apologize to the Eroids community.
Alphamale500Are the expiration dates from 5 yrs ago? As long as you never opened the vials and stored them properly, they should still be good for at least another year or two. If anything, a loss of some potency is really all you have to worry about. If you really want to be safe, maybe you can smell the oil as you're drawing it to make sure it doesn't have any kind of rancid/rotten smell to it. But I think you'll be fine.
Sure what's a little abscess (see Rusty's pictures).
ETA: in the OP's attempt to find a co-signer,....... we have found one.
RustyhookerI wonder where all these guys will be saying 'you'll be fine' will be at when you are laid up in hospital looking like this? ...
jayiskanother hole to stick it in..haha
guy has a period vag on his ass.
Alphamale500After reading my comment again, I do agree that I shouldn't of wrote that last line like that. That's my fault. All I can do is learn from my mistakes.
The time and effort researching and writing about this you should of just bought new fresh stuff.
Waste of time.
Any doubt should be a no when it involves injecting shit into your body.
Be real mate.
Most GEAR is good for a while past the Expy date. However, I wouldn't go with anything five years past. That's just too long of a time period.
Your body, your life.
Welcome back man, I wouldn’t touch expired products, even if they were still good. I would be worried about every single thing, any new spot on my body, not worth it
I’ve got quite a bit of gear that expired in 2017 that I use regularly. Safflower oil based and high concentrates. Still strong, smooth and pins like I just bought it
StevebI read somewhere that the drug itself last a long time but the carrier oil is what goes bad first. It was a legit scientific article but I can't find it anymore. Maybe look up the shelf life of whatever carrier oil you have.
StevebMCT was 1 to 2 years
Oil based can go a while past the expiry especially in amps. Ampules can go a couple years passed at least. Cheap ugl I may toss Now water based. I would Toss that shit before it expires
PcushionThey put an expiration of products for a reason. If it was your girls birth control you would have no problem saying hell no. That’s about all I have on this. Happy Pinning
The military was losing millions of dollars tossing exp meds out, until they made a study and found out differently.
There are laws on the books that force an expiration date to be posted. Often times the date is arbitrary. It can also increase sales.
UGL's are unregulated. They just want to look legit as Goose pointed out. There is a lot of reasons to be wary about UGL as press pointed out. Losing potency isn't one of them.
PcushionGoose and press1 both made extremely valid points and the link you shared brings a lot of light to the situation as well. The situation of “expired” or “old” run a lot deeper than it would appear.
On a side note guys we are having a conversation that doesn’t involve telling someone their diet sucks, your too young, or don’t be lazy and read for yourself. I am extremely pleased with this whole conversation.
This gear is from 5 years ago in Jugs, with No expiry, from a UGL that he now can't get in contact with - and he's talking of pinning it a year from now. Are people seriously saying they would inject this themselves? ...
I must have been unclear. The 10 ml sealed vials are 5 years old and I am thinking of running them now. We shall see. Doesn't the addition of benzyl alcohol and benzyl benzoate prevent bacteria? I know the oils can spoil though but what can that do? We're talking about a bunch of vials here not just 1 or 2.
PcushionI think what’s on the floor is expirations really don’t mean anything in a black market world. That said what we do know for sure is that the gear in question is atleast 5 years old and he is taking a year from now which put is at 6 atleast. I say atleast bc they didn’t brew it the day he bought it so there is that small time scale to consider. I know I would not inject anything into my body that has been sitting around for atleast 5 years much less 6. Ace said his rule of thumb was three. I personally have never had gear left sitting around. I buy it take it and throw the bottle away. I understand now that ugl labs just out a date to look legit. I have never even thought to look at an expiration. I have however thought about the fact I do buy unregulated and illegally manufactured hormones and try to only buy after a lot of positive feedback. Still I always think who knows what exactly is in them and how much whatever is there in them and that’s the reason I wouldn’t take it at this point. It’s kind of a revolving door. The expirations doesn’t mean anything anyway bc there UGL and only put on to seem legit but because there UGL who know what much less how much of this product you are even getting.
Take this into consideration about UGL gear.... UGL labs make labels by the thousands...rolls on rolls on rolls... what makes you, me or anyone for that matter think they're just going to spend all kinds of money to update the date on the roll they're slapping on the bottle of test they're brewing? Just something to keep in mind. I'm not arguing with you btw. I as well always air on the side of caution when In doubt.
+2. People follow the label on a UGL vial like they’re reading the back of a paracetamol box they brought from a pharmacy. They’re not going to throw out 200+ labels just because it’s a different batch.. they’re also not going to worry to much about extending the exp date by a few years to suit them.
PcushionI see your side where your coming from for sure. I guess that’s more of a reason to research your source and not buy from someone who has the cheapest price.
Ace VenturaNah, man, that ain’t it. Any source that sells non-pharm just puts a date on the label to look more professional, like Greg said. It doesn’t mean they’re being shitty. Stuff is usually freshly brewed. I’d just go by a general rule of using it within about 3 years of when it was purchased
Which probably makes the most sense if one is concerned about such things; using the date purchased as the DMARC. The labels can be months or year(s) older than the gear.
I've used goths wifes gear some months back without even thinking about it. It must have been about 5 or 6 years old at that time... maybe older. (Mind you, This was a completely unthought out choice I didn't consider until now If Ace was a mod right now, and I hadn't logged in for quite some time, it'd be safe to conclude it was a bad choice). -I do not recommend doing the same. We each have our tolerance for risk.
Here's my review: worked as expected, it was fyah, I was good 2 go.
Thanks Greg. I've used the old gear from Goth years ago myself. This stuff is from Kraken and Ares and Muta.
BTW.....I really need to speak to you in private if possible. Can you get in touch with me some how? Account issue.
Thinks big bro.
Ace. Friend request sent.
Exactly!
Exactly mate x2, this isn't just some game we are playing here. These are compounds that we already don't really know exactly where they are coming from and under what conditions, that we are injecting through the bodies natural defence barrier ultimately into our blood. Even though the gear still may be effective, its going to be less effective with time so why bust a gut in training if you are using underdosed gear at the same time?
PcushionOnce again eye to eye. You spoke my mind about the whole thing. You got make the smartest dumb decision you can if that makes sense. Happy pinning brother.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/fdas-reasonable-variat...
Ace VenturaI know. I was gonna say expiration dates on meds don’t matter. They just put them shits there because they have to, and probably to get people to buy more
Thanks Greg!
My gear is from ugls from on here five years ago and there isn't ANY exp dates on the jugs. ..... I'm on the fence.
PcushionI hear ya man. In your situation I would just read what Greg put out there and do or don’t. Make a decision and see where it takes you. I just checked and my current gear is from a very respectable lab. And it’s says it’s got a four year life span. Not that it means anything considering some valid points made but that’s just what it says. I did just have a thought though. If you can get in touch with the lab still ask them what they think or any lab you trust that you have dealt with in the past. Just make sure to tell them you just purchased more gear from them but you were wanting to throw this in with the mix :).
Can't get in touch with the labs. All are from five years ago from on here and they are all gone now. Just gonna have to make a decision and go with it.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/shelf-life-of...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids?page=55&sort=...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/expired-gear-0
Why not do the research yourself? Why come here and try to have Someone consign for you? This is a decision YOU have to make. Use the search function at the top like I did... ise google... use your own brain..
Good luck
Thanks goose. This is just an opinion thing I think. I've searched but as those answers clearly show there are vastly differing opinions.
Thanks for the quick reply brother.
Personally i wouldnt bother and trash it. Its not going to hurt you but more than likely will be less potent
Thanks Robman.....I just don't have my sources in place at the moment... And this is my only option atm. But safe to use is all I'm worried about. Should I heat and filter?
Looking for old friends in here as well....if you remember my old name Finman.
Stevebyo
Yep Steveb.. I think we used to kick it in here.