posted Mon, 05/05/2025 - 18:52
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I'm that rare individual that just converts to estrogen like crazy even when lean as hell, primo doesn't make my e2 budge, but I love eq! With eq higher than my test I don't need ai, or atleast very little.
Recently I decided to give mast a try, even though I love my hair. On 150mg test/150 primo a week I needed ai, my tits were itchy and growing.
Masteron as I understand it seems to be less of an ai and more like a serm in its effects, and I feel it, a few weeks in and I can drop ai again.
So what's the downside? I'm using ru58841 and minoxidil, haven't noticed hair loss yet. Does that come later?
Any other side effects?
Had bloods recently, looking perfect and my BP is spot on.
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yo, could I ask where you get your ru58841 from?
because I haven't found a reliable source yet
Not sure exactly what was the problem with my experience but when I added 200mg of mast, I got extremely depressed. I added it to 600 test. I've never been a high aromitizer so I'm assuming my estro got crushed.
This is the thing right here ^ EVERYONE reacts differently. Best bet is to start dosage low as possible and see.
Hair loss comes over time especially with DHT based steroids , I started thinning years later but some people lose it more quickly , genetics also plays part.with promo and that low of a dose of test do you need an AI ? You might crash your estrogen at those doses which is a worse feeling .
Masteron for me usually keeps estrogen sides at bay without crashing e2 or unnecessarily taking an ai. I’m surprised primo doesn’t effect your e2 at all, it usually does to some capacity for most. IMO not touching an ai should always be the goal and only take if need be. I’ve crashed estrogen with a small amount of letro because I felt some nipple action and holy fuck I felt the worst brain fog and lethargy of my life for like 2 weeks or so. Letro is a legit estrogen nuke!
I can pop ai like tic tacs without brain fog, acne, mood issues, it's wild.
The only low e symptoms I get are sore joints and lack of libido
I’d question the ai then. Popping them like candy will more than likely cause brain fog and mood issues, unless you’re on like a lot of aromatizing compounds. Please be careful with just popping ai’s, crashed estrogen brain fog n mood fucking blows. I got it from letro and it was a couple of weeks of hell.
-It is unlikely that the dependency is exactly as you describe. I think the total amount of Equipoise and your personal aromatization tendency are more significant factors than the Testosterone-to-Equipoise ratio.
-That’s is correct.
-Not necessarily.
-Age-related risks: potential negative impact on the prostate.
AK80If you aren't injecting at least twice per week, or better yet, MWF, then you should. With that low amount of compounds, you can just switch over to 30g x 1/2" slin pins too and inject shoulder, quad, glute, whatever. THAT is what will help lower your side effects. If you are prone to Masteron torching your hair, then don't take it. Pop some Anavar or maybe just 6.25mg of Aromasin once per week (half a pill)
I need waaaay more than 6.25mg of aromasin lol my nipples would stick out across the room
I inject every other day on cruise, daily on cycle
I don't take test without mast, it works better for me than all other methods.
I aromatize horribly, had gyno during puberty for a little bit and was already balding before any gear
anvilHair fell out 4 weeks of Mast E, sooner on P. Not an AI, so still needed same protocols for AI on it. If you're estro is going up , maybe it's test labeled mast or something else is causing a change in conversion.
Hair may not fall out at all for you, nothing is that easy. You test and see as you are.
I tried to use alittle Cut Blend because the Mast Prop in it really helps with estro and keeps the need for Ai away. Downside is my hair thinned out really fast from a tiny dose(25mg Mast P E3D). Don’t think I can run Mast going forward. It doesn’t take much to control e2 for me it seems but the hair thing is a mind fuck I’m not ready for. I wondered if Mast E would have the same drastic effect on hair compared to the prop?
Makes sense, I know it's not an ai, it just seems to keep my gyno at bay
anvilYeah I was agreeing with that portion of what you said!
Bro Sounds like you’re one of those high aromatizers where EQ actually works in your favor … nothing wrong with that if it keeps your E2 stable and you feel great. Mast definitely helps blunt E2 symptoms for a lot of guys, more like modulating receptor activity than actually lowering E2 levels like an AI would.
As for hair …. if you’re prone, it’s not if, it’s when. Mast is DHT-based and definitely not hairline-friendly long-term. RU and minoxidil can hold the line for a while, but if you’re genetically sensitive, shedding may creep in over time …. especially once you go past 200mg+.
Just keep monitoring sides and bloods like you’re doing. If everything feels good and labs are solid, ride it out …. just know the hair tax might come eventually.
I soaked up a gram of eq per week like nothing, no low e symptoms with 500mg of test. It was great, the only downside was tension headaches, a little bit of high blood pressure. I had tension headaches for a month, but otherwise my body ate it up, I was jacked, vascular and felt GOOD. 0 anxiety that those with less estrogen conversion report, and I was always ready to fuck. Huge fan. I'm going to stay on trt dose plus mast or primo until I hit 30 weeks, then hop back on higher test and eq.
I'm using 150mg test prop and 300mg mast currently, just because it's an easy 5050 mix in a 1ml syringe every other day, I'll drop it down to 200mg mast next week and see if it's still effective at keeping my breasts happy.
For sure, Man Sounds like you really dialed it in, man. Not many can run a gram of EQ with 500mg test and feel that good …jacked, vascular, zero anxiety, high libido … that’s the dream setup for a lot of guys. Headaches and BP spikes are annoying, but if everything else feels on point and bloods are in check(bloodwork is king, double check on hematocrit plz), it’s a fair trade.
The test prop + mast combo you’re on now is smart and practical. That 1cc EOD makes pinning simple, and if it’s keeping estrogen in check without needing an AI, even better. Dropping mast to 200mg to test response is a solid call too … no need to push more than necessary if sides stay managed.
You’re running this with a good head on your shoulders. Keep it going.