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low dose dianabol long term

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I am.no way planning to do this i just know a few guys who do this so dont flame ...ok iknow a fair few people on trt who use dbol year round on doses of like 10 to 20mg who have been doing it pritty much on and of for the past year or two well so they have will no ill effect no liver damage...can dbol at a dose of 10 to 20mg a day really cause that much damage if you live a clean life style like eat healthy dont drink or smoke and take liver meds....ive heard seen and watched body builders admit to taking shit like 2 to 4 anadrols a day for 2 to 4 years and there still standing....i just cant imagine dbol at that of low dose be worse than consuming alcohol every day like many do....people like me who have crhones disease who find it impossible to support body mass due to the disease blocking nutrition absorption can seriously benefit from this idea if it's no so harmful...iknow every one is different some are healthier than others...until you have a disease which causes you to feel shit daily and low energy you can't Imagine how bad it is....I'm pritty lucky I don't have it bad...

irongame427's picture

Hmmm, how bout this blood work right here, weeks after finishing a run with dbol. Liver enzymes are still extremely elevated and this is like 2 months after a 4 week run in a moderate dose of dbol. Dumbass

http://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/55696/image_32.jpg

vhman's picture

Stupid is as stupid does. Good luck with that.
How about all the other sides with dbol: elevated blood pressure for one. Just pure ignorance to think you're safe running dbol long term.

Minus's picture

I read about bodybuilders trying this tactic. Taking dbol only in the morning, sometimes high as 50mg. They said it would help but also prevent you from shutting down completely. As for the liver I believe anadrol was made for aids patients to help with the dying of tissue and to be taken daily, And that is probably harsher on the liver than dbol. I also read that aspirin and drinking causes more damage than steroids.

carl3553's picture

Found alot of good info on digestive enzymes and probiotics...its worth ago

birdbear27's picture

Bingo.

carl3553's picture

What's thoughts on vitamin b 12 injections any side effect? Read a few blogs that it helps..

carl3553's picture

Cheers guys the last time I felt good was nearly a year ago I was packing away nearly 6000 thousand calories a day using two weight gainers a day that's the last time I saw real muscle go on but I got fat as he'll...I'm finding it hard the find the perfect balance I need so my body's getting enough nutrients a day......i might just have to force down as many veggies and vitamins and minerals as possible

ashop's picture

I think in the end it would be counter productive.
Run it for 4-6 weeks at a time and give it a break.

tzelukie's picture

Long term 5mg's of pharma grade dbol will ruin your liver... It is that simple. If it was good for you and a healthy way to counter act a real health problem we would know about as doctors would be prescribing it... Side note my wifes a pharm D. If your friends were taking real dbol they would be yellow. So a couple things, there dbol could be lower dose then is advertised, which is very possable, as far im concerned the dbols of old don't exist any more so unless it came from a legit pharm I question the dosing. The other thing iss there age could have something to do with it if there young, but they will age real fast once the damage gets done.... Not a good idea! Just my humble opinion!

rolltide3's picture

20 mgs is not a small dose if u get real dbol u don't need over 20 ta 30 mgs a day I've had real dbol before at 20 ta 30 mgs a day that u could hardly work out bc the pumps were so painful. The answer is no

Champion Of The Mind's picture

LOL they couldn't figure it out in the 70's and here we are 30 years later and still debating the proper dose...

Muffins's picture

Crohn's sufferer here; with a weight of over 220lbs three years of the four years, since diagnosis.

jrod1's picture

I agree with the other posters on this. I've read about Crohn's disease extensively because of the classes I'm going through and it sounds tough man. I'd suggest trying to get the disease as much under control as possible first. D-bol year around would do way more damage than it's worth and wouldn't be helping your main problem which is Crohn's disease. Wish you the best of luck man.

irongame427's picture

I just remembered in friend with someone on here who also has chrons and he competes and does really well. Maybe he can give you some advice. Here's his profile sent him a fr
https://www.eroids.com/users/brex

Oldermuscle41's picture

I'm going to take this is a slightly different direction for a minute and ask what is the purpose of doing this? Id love to see the gains they get from this. What do the guys you know say they get from it? Just curious. I wouldn't do it because I like tan skin with my nice blue eyes not yellow skin with beautiful bright yellow eyes.. Lol

irongame427's picture

Eroids is a safety first kinda forum, so no ones ever gonna say its a good idea to stay on an oral year round. Shit, no forum with intelligent people will say this is a good idea. While one guy might do this an be just fine, the second guys liver fails after 6 months of it. Even with alcoholics, some live to be old and die that way, and the next guys liver fails at 40. So theres never a clear cut answer with stuff like this, were all different. But the simple answer is its a terrible idea.

Some guys run into serious problems with 20mgs for 4-6 weeks. 17aa steroids are very toxic to the liver and thats why we say only run them for a short period of time.

Dickkhead's picture

FLAME YOU?? I WOULDN'T EVEN THINK OF IT . . .

But, no seriously, birdbear27 below is right, even a low dose with no break can do some serious harm. Look at the link at the bottom of his post and think through this seriously. Not worth the risk at all.

carl3553's picture

I do cycle two to three times a year bit regardless of pct my gains just fall off

carl3553's picture

Thanks for the replies guys..thought it was too good to be true...what about a low dose of decade let's say 100th a week along side trt....its not a case of me putting more work in to my diet or training harder it's a actual problem

birdbear27's picture

The nutrient absorption problems can be handled naturally with chrons disease. Probiotics, certain vitamins, digestive enzymes. They can do a ton of good for a person with your condition. Steroids wont make any difference at all if your body's moat basic processes aren't working correctly. In fact steroids are dependant on it. I'll see if I can dig up some specifics.

irongame427's picture

Man I think regardless of what steroids you take if your nutrients aren't being absoebed you will still lose it. Peopl do lose muscle on steroids. I've seen it first hand.

Catalyst's picture

Put it this way, I wouldn't do it. One liver, why take the risk?

birdbear27's picture

Look at long term daily casual drinkers. It eventually wears you down. The water retention and high blood pressure alone from dbol is enough to make me say no go. I'll take long term slight liver stress over long term high blood pressure any day. High blood pressure is a killer. The liver can put up with some shit. But the kidneys can't. High bp will beat your kidneys to shit and mess you up big time.

Take a look at this

SL's picture

I agree with this