First off I'm no pro, I'm new to this website, and I've been educating myself as I prepare for my first cycle, which will be 10 weeks of Test Ethenate followed by a PCT. I know I've reached my maximum potential through natural sups and I made sure my first cycle was what all the vets on this site are recommended( because I started a thread and asked, I didn't just order 20 bottles of trenbolone and stack it with 7 different orals like I see every other youngster doing in here.) Now I'm speaking to all the youngsters on this site, this is from the heart and from my experience with a friend who has abused AAS. Of course we all want to look like that big son of a b!tch at the gym that drives the nice car and has all the ladies attention. Why wouldn't we? Hell I know I do. First off, ask that guy about what he did to get to where he is, and I promise you he will elaborate on the long road of hard work, and yes maybe he took or is taking AAS, but I promise you he will tell you to stay the hell away from them until your have reached your max potential and your old enough. How do I know that what he will say?? Because I f'ing finally mustered the balls to ask a couple of gym vets at my local gym. Were they pissed I was bothering them, probably, but they all respected I was trying to educate myself, and I bet if your respectful to them, they will also give you some great lifting pointers and soon enough you will probably get a friend as well. I'm not only seeing youngsters abuse steroids and ruin their lives, I'm seeing them being duesh bags to the gym vets. I think it's funny because they talk sh!t behind their back, but turn around and pop dbol and tren like its candy to try to be like them. All I'm saying is quit being duesh bags and abusing steroids, talk to the gym vets and educate yourself, don't just talk behind their back. Ignorance creates jealousy. Talk to the gym vets, you won't regret it.