posted Sat, 10/06/2012 - 12:43
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Test Levels and PCT Question
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Is there any such thing as having to much test in system when beginning pct??? Reason why I ask is I have just started PCT this Friday and my test levels was 3432. I'm on second day of PCT and I can still taste the test. So I'm thinking my test levels are still elevated which will keeps the HPTA shut down. However clo and nol blocks more esto from being produced and begin the process of stimulating sperm and testosterone production. And there is also the AI which prevents the remaining test from aromatizing. Is the remaining test still utilized and does it interfere with the resurrection of LH/FSH hormones???
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cdaddy7This ok bc ur levels will drop trust me if u have to run the PCT a little longer like 5-6 weeks it's ok...I have seen this before...It's been a while but seen it....u still have healthy levels to around 700 I believe...just stay on ur PCT and run the bloodwork again in a few weeks and see if the levels drop...they will...It's all about returning to homeostasis...ur levels will return but until then u have to keep blocking the estrogen conversion to keep the levels low as well bc they want to stay high with your test...just make dawg sure u do the bloodwork in ur case bc It's very important that u monitor them so we can land this plane safely my man
Welcome back:-) I left this thread alone just in hope you'd see it and post. This is right where u belong brother.
cdaddy7You know I ain't goin nowhere G!!! Love u guys too much in a full HOMO way!!! LOL ....Eroids is my family!!
Was waiting for the G&C team to chime in. Interesting questions from bigsteele. For future reference, would there be anything wrong in delaying PCT, say another week and assuming bloodwork is done, until test has dropped to a level where clomid/nolva are more effective? In the meantime, it still looks like you would continue with aramosin because of estro conversion.
AnonHey Snuka, that's exactly what my point was brother. Here I have these results in front of me and I'm thinking the clo/nol are useless and the AI is preventing the test conversion so at least I can run another week and utilize the test. I get what C is saying because if you can't get a fast turn around on results then why risk it. However, I get results next day so for future cycles I can monitor my system better and run a more effective cycle. This way I get to fully maximize the test.
cdaddy7You could but u must have that bloodwork on point...usually it takes ten days to result from the time u do the home kit...if u know your body well then It's a different story...if not its best to play it safe especially since Nolva and Clomid being so cheap...why risk it, but to answer your question yes if levels were high you could and use an AI, but I wouldn't chance it IMHO...I would just keep with PCT until levels get to normal
OK..Gotcha. Next time I'm considering doing a little more frequent bloodwork after cycle just to get a better idea of where t levels really drop and how long it takes my body to recover. But as you say, SERMs are relatively inexpensive so not much of a hit to the wallet and still prudent to begin PCT at the typical time after last pin depending on ester.
cdaddy7You want to watch that e2 and LH and FSH numbers close bc when that e2 level drops and ur LH and FSH numbers go up that mean ur natty production of test and sperm is workn in it was back to capacity
nice 411!
AnonThanks C, I appreciate that, it's kinda where I was at to. BW is being done next week. I'm running PCT clo/nol w/ aromasin. Should be G2G by then..
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinkcdaddy7It may take you a little longer than the average bear bc ur levels were quite large and high, but I seen worse an made it back just fine...main thing is keep doing what u r doing bc It's workn in the right direction of normal and that's what we want
AnonYeah I'm trying to gauge it based on the last results. Previously I was at 7055 test and 218 estro. It took about 8 days for the levels to drop just almost in half. I figure at that rate it would have taken about another 6 to get them at just about normal levels. That's where I am now because I can feel the change in system. So actually starting PCT when I did was ok. So you are definitely right about being safe and having serms and also good practice if one can, to get bloods done during cycle. The ink don't lie. Thanks bro...
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinkcdaddy7Always biggsteele, I'm glad we got u back safe without many real bad sides...a big scare but a great lesson learned...u hit me up brother anytime...
How long after your last pin did you start pct?
Anon15 days after last pin...but that's not what I'm concerned about. just wanted to know if there is a conflict bro.
well if you are using sustanon or cypionate it could be an issue. Especially if your injection technique is not allowing the oil to completely absorb int othe muscle that will delay the length of time test gets released into your system. Which would mean you will stay shut down for most of the duration of your pct making it completely worthless
Anonit seems as though no one else wants to chime in. Unusual!!! So j223, what would you consider an acceptable level of test for pct????