posted Sat, 06/18/2016 - 10:42
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Lean bulk stack???
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Finished my first test c only cycle. 500/week. Made some solid gains. Not ready for a lean bulk or cut cycle yet. I think I got one more bulk in me to gain some more size before I want to peel out.
Question: A good beginner level lean bulk or cut. Test and one other compound. Suggestions appreciated.
Just doing some research. Thanks in advance.
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Oh bro. Equipoise is what your looking for. Go for 300-400 mg of EQ and you can't go wrong. You may experience minimal sides and get that lean bulk you are looking for. Just make sure that you go for at least 14-16 weeks of EQ for it take longer than other steroids for you to feel the full effects of the EQ. Good luck!
Did Test C gives a lean body? Or Test uses for bulking?
Diet gives you both. Start your own thread if you have questions.
Thanks guys. I'm prob just gonna keep it simple and do another test cycle. Maybe one other things still on the fence though. Appreciate the feedback.
Bro, as said below, there ain't no such dang thing as a "lean bulk." A lean bulk would imply that you are gonna add nothing but clean dry mass to your frame without any water or fat.
Not gonna happen. No how. No way.
You can try to "manage" the amount of fat an bloat you take on with diet and chemicals but since your TDEE varies from day to day think about how hard that would be to do. What is a 1,000 cal surplus one day is a 1,500 cal surplus the next day and a 500 cal surplus the day after that.
I keep using this same example over and over. Look at the offseason photos of the top Olympia pros on their bulk diets. There ain't none of them that's lean out looking. Quite the opposite.
I think mast e at 250-300mg along side the 500mg test would be a good "lean bulk" cycle. Eat at 500-750 calories above maintenance, and keep it clean. The mast will help to keep the bloat down and add some aggression and intensity. You may have to adjust AI dosage a bit once the mast is in full swing.
How did your first cycle go in terms of weight gained (got any pics?).
I'm sure you could run 500mg test again for 15 weeks and an oral for the first 4-6 weeks, such as dbol (40mg should be ample) or superdrol for 4 weeks (20mg).
Alternatively, if you didn't want to run an oral. Test at 500mg and deca at 500mg for 15 weeks is a decent second cycle.
Have all AI etc on hand (you should know what dosing you need now from a) your previous cycle and b) bloods which you should have got during)
Diet will dictate how "lean" the bulk is, so focus on having a small calorie surplus and judge progress by both weight and the mirror.
Superdrol? A 19nor, For a second cycle? At a 1:1 ratio? Perpetuating the myth of lean bulking?
Terrible advice.
Superdrol is probably the best oral if you wanted a "lean bulk".
And why not go for a 19nor for a second cycle.
It doesn't really matter what second compound he adds in (if he doesn't want to just run test).
The idea of test only on a first cycle is to see how you react, get ai in control etc, so you can then do the same with your second compound.
If it's terrible advice in your opinion, at least I've some reasoning.
And 1:1 ratio is fine. As long as e2 (which will subsequently control progest) are in range, you won't suffer "deca dick" etc".
Superdrol is the one of the most toxic oral compounds around, and it's negative sides far outweigh the benefits of using it, especially for a newcomer.
19nor shutdown is a lot harsher than normal shutdown, and makes recovery more difficult. Your recommendation of the dosage is just asking for prolactin related sides. 19nors are out of the question for any second cycles. No mention of prolactin control either, huh?
Lastly, there is no such thing as a lean bulk. It's a horseshit myth propagated by gym bros who've no idea what dieting is like. It doesn't exist, otherwise it would be a stable procedure in BBing circuits. Hint: it's not. You either bulk or you cut. On another note you've been quick to dump harmful advice regarding multiple compound usage but fuckall regarding any type of dieting advice - which is 90% of this goddamned lifestyle.
RustyhookerAlready answered on your post yesterday. System has glitched