posted Thu, 08/29/2013 - 03:03
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If test p isn't effective
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I have read numerous threads about test p and people have told me to run it and not to run it. If the goal is to cut and the diet is right and people have seen results why would running test p 150mg eod be not as good as running test 600ng a week? I start pinning Monday and want to know what to do lol
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RustyhookerI read replues below and they're true. Like Hollywood said. I'd blend it with mast prop. I cut well with mast/prop/var. But it will make or break ya. You'll get pin sore even when it doesn't pip.
Basically....man the fk up! Get 8 point rotation. Blend. You gotta learn sooner or later.
My cutter....
1-8 mast prop 150eod
1-6 prop 150 eod
6-8 prop 75eod
2-8 var 75 split daily
Adjust length as needed of course. We all learned....one way or the other. Click my name....click my forums. Big list of pip advice in firum from many authors. Lotta advice from all eroids there
Great advice man ill deff bee looking at all ur forums
Personally, I LOVE test P. I'm a sick fuck and love pinning every day. There can def. be some PIP issues but I actually did pretty well with it for the most part.
You def. need to learn good rotation like what was suggested. EOD would be a good place to start. I found smaller doses every day to work better for me. I always felt like shit after one big dose. Oh and if your like me, avoid prop with EO!!
Yea ill be starting with these ampules I got and then start big ds when I get that in yea ill be sucking it up bc I'm trying to get back down to like 250 ish so ill have to suck it up for 12 weeks lol or as long as I can go
Test P for 12 weeks is a bad idea. Prop is typically shorter duration since it kicks in quicker. Use test E if you are going to cycle that long.
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I'm currently in my second cycle consisting of prop and var. First time using prop and it sucked for the first 2 weeks but after that I was fine with very little pip. Eod injections are not for the light hearted but its not that bad. You just gotta man up and get it done. Mind over matter bro. I switched from eod to ed injections at week 6. I hit quads, delts, glutes and just introduced tri's. I think if you have good quality gear, good pinning technique, good site rotation and your body takes the oil well you will have no problem with a short ester cycle. Again, not for the light hearted tho.
Yea just have to get done what needs to get done ill try that b12 trick and see if that helps if I need relief every 6 days should be good it's alot harder I feel to do it myself but when someone else does it I feel for me atleast it's quick and easy and non hesitant lol
If u can't pin yourself comfortably its gonna be pretty tough. I actually have less pain when I pin myself than when somebody else use to do it for me and she was a nurse. I found that grabbing a hunk of muscle with my left hand and injecting with my right really helps with quad injections. When i pin glutes i find where i want to pin and stretch the skin a little while I pin and can't even feel the pin go in virtually pain free.
IMO/IME those early in their cycle history should hold off on short cycles. Pinning technique, site rotation, training the sites and familiarity with PIP should be taken into consideration. The overall commitment of a short cycle is often under estimated as well as lack of familiarity or sensitivity to PIP could hinder training thus results
I second that. Far more complexity than long esters.
FuCKKKKKKKK i hear what your saying man i really do but i already ordered my cutting cycle i guess illl give it a try and if i cant take it then ill just switch bc im running atleast a 12 weeks if not 16 week i have ran high test before for that long with little to no sides besides the limp dick which i have viagra for that lol i guess we will see in the next couple of weeks or month how i feel on it
and as for the sites i have pinned in glutes delts chest bicep lat i tried to pin in my quad by my self but the needle almost got stuck so i am scared of that lol and i pinned that with tren for some reason i heard that u can pin in it jst about anywhere lol
You are going to be hurting bro, you'll get about 6-7 wks in (if you're a trooper) and start hating life... Bro I am a total prop whore and I don't do 12wk prop cycles. LOL
Hitting the quads with prop is something you'll do ONCE! LOL!
Hahaha ahahahaahah is it just bc of how often you are injecting that is terrible?
I've given my .02 now live and learn lil bro live and learn... you tank a cycle midstream (as we all have) and you will be more open to the experience of others
Okay okay hahaha thanks for the advice ill deff be postif progress on my cycle
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/how-to-run-a-cycle
Here's a quote from this post:
"There are all sorts of shorter estered cycles for those who don't mind pinning more often. These are generally better for cutting as the shorter estered compounds generally make you bloat less and leave your system faster. But again, testosterone is always the base for any cycle."
I'm currently running Propionate in place of Test E for TRT. So far I'm liking it.
ok bc i have been getting so many mixed signals with like the science behind the half life and stuff lol but i want to run lik 150 tren ace and 100 test p EOD to see how i feel and yea its for a cutter
I just read your STATS. Hllwdbdboy would be who I would get advice from at your age. I was just giving you some info to read and tell you my experience with Prop. And yes, I feel like a pin cushion. I'm rotating injection sites and using a 25gauge needle so it's not so bad IMO. I'm wanting to incorporate Tren into my cycle also. The advice given to me was to use short esters (for a first time Tren run) so if there were any sides I could adjust dosage easier, etc.
Proper tren direction bro... in fact I try to stay clear of tren e altogether
No1Who said test prop isnt effective? Test is Test, and it doesnt burn fat. Run the prop if you like pinning alot which i personally dont so i use the long esters