How to stay safe?
Hi everyone,
I just joined this forum, I've been members of other forums (non steroids forums, just normal bodybuilding forums) and I know that sometimes new members aren't welcome and often get flamed until they leave, I hope this doesn't happen here.
Let me be totally honest and admit I'm 19, my diet and training routine isn't the best but has provided me with some decent gains. I plan to run an Anavar only cycle for reasons unrelated to bodybuilding, I'm not going to be taking it for any bodybuilding related reason, please don't ask what I will be taking it for as it will probably anger people.
I'm not a typical irresponsible teenager, I'm also not stupid. I will not cycle anything else with it, nor will I go above a pharmaceutical dose (I don't need to for what I will be taking it for). I know what side effects to expect, however I'm not sure how to stay as safe as possible. I know I will need something like Arimidex but I don't know if it would be best to take it whilst taking the Anavar or after taking it? I plan to take the Anavar for an extended period of time (over 3 months) so I think it may be best taking the Arimidex with the Anavar.
What else can I do to stay as safe as possible? Is there anything I should take to protect my liver? I will be consuming everything orally.
Please don't try and talk me out of taking Anavar, I've already made my mind up, please understand that taking this is my last resort, if I don't take it I will cause myself a lot more harm. I'm really past caring what happens to myself and think it's time for me to take the Anavar, any last minute help or advice would be very appreciated.
Thanks, if I'm not welcome here then please tell me and I'll leave. I know this sort of thread will annoy the hell out of most people and I apologize for that, I didn't really know where else to post this and I plan on trying the majority of steroid boards.
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There, now we're safe from his drivel.
I'm not exactly sure how I feel about this thread... On the one hand this doesn't seem to be like your typical swinging dick trying to jump on gear before his pubic hair fully grew in, but given the secrecy and the resilience to share anything about what the actual fuck is going on, I do see why things turned to shit this quick.
I think it's time for a delete...
Totally agree, this is ridiculous. These self important narcissistic types that want to draw you in with intrigue and allude to some life ending pain that they don't want to talk about...........fucking redick! Fucking trolls.
Wow, some of you older vets are just jerkoffs, this young man was looking for advice and he turned to Eroids for help and it all went to shit pretty quick. JohnDoe, I commend on asking the older some times wiser members for advice
Go get bent punk. You have contributed literally nothing here and you wanna come in here with your little jerkoff comment like it carries some kind of weight.
Anabolic steroids will only intensify your symptoms when you come off.. if you think your anxiety or depression is bad now just imagine when you come off the anavar.. it is literally depression on steroids.. I'm not a doctor but as someone with lifelong depression and experience with anabolics I would strongly urge you to take a different route.
When you go to ask for advice anywhere else.. please don't ask something then imply the person you're asking is too mentally inferior to qualify giving you any other advice than adex usage.. and actually complain about future flaming like you didn't know what you were typing.. that's actually one of the dumbest ways I've seen someone seek advice
They prescribe Anavar for medical reasons. If no doctor would even consider prescribing it to you there is a reason...you don't need it. If what your saying is true I would go to a hospital, tell them the truth, and they won't let you hurt yourself. Half your responses below show a disrespectful child, not somebody looking for help. You should have been banned already in my opinion
If the kid is being honest (see crapshoot) I would rather he hears what everyone has to say.
You have the patience of a saint brother. I was fucking twitching reading the other posts. Be safe and keep doing your thing Pale
Thanks. I try to remember what it was like at that age. I wouldn't call me patient tho, lol, maybe just a little bit wiser. I wish I could do a Vulcan mind meld on these kids and show them that life is moving fast and they need to be hard after the golden ring when they are young. It only gets more difficult to change course as we get older.
What can you expect from kids nowadays though? Everyone is a winner, nobody gets told "No" anymore, every kid now has some kind of disorder (whereas back then it was called being a kid), nobody is told they're a loser anymore because they're all winners... How do you expect a kid to build up any kind of character to prepare themselves for the real world when they are all awarded a medal for breathing and a golden star for trying?
I fee bad for this kid, I do. But I can't help him, nobody on this forum can if he won't give us info. Plain and simple. You can't throw a wrench at a computer and hope the virus goes away.
Post like this remind me of people on rehab tellin their story to other fellow addicts. I wonder what is this kid want us to tell him? Stay safe? Be safe from yourself, you are the only one harming yourself
please send me a fr, at the very least read my post from this morning in the general talk forum. I am begging you to rethink this.
RustyhookerDepression. Yes, coming off gear and the stopping of natural testosterone for weeks after use WILL cause depression. That depression sucks if you're not prepared.
You won't state your illness even though there's been folks on here simply needing recovery of mass from aids, narcotics, cancers....
AnonI can understand what you're saying, but I'm not them.
My problem is so petty in comparison to things like aids, cancer, etc. However, in my mind it's still enough to tip me over the edge and make me not want to carry on. In comparison my problem is nothing but I live in my mindset, so I can't help it.
Yes you can help it. Look I don't know what you are going through but I can tell you there is a different way. Reading a line like this "in my mind it's still enough to tip me over the edge and make me not want to carry on", tells me you have some problems that only a professional therapist can help with. Trust me I know from experience, I was at that point where I wanted to end it all. I know what that is like, please rethink this and seek professional help. FR me brother
Def helped me with past narcotics abuse and mental health issues/depression ;-)
RustyhookerSwitched lifestyles and focused!
yes you are
yes you are. A smart kid would talk to their parents, doctor, or counselor.
You're not welcome here because you don't want to listen so please leave
AnonWhatever you say.
Parents? What if I don't have any?
Doctor? Oh yeah he's great if I have ear ache or a headache or something simple. Anything other than a simple physical problem and he's as useless as a chocolate teapot.
I will happily listen to some useful advice. I only haven't left yet as it seems there may be some helpful members around who can give me a few tips to minimize the damage I will cause.
If everyone reacts negatively to me, so be it. I'll say it anyway.
This could have been handled differently.
I agree with you but wtf man either give the community the respect that it deserves or dont bother.
It's a tough one, always has been and probably always will be. I try to empathise with the op's scenario, especially when it seems like there's something more to it than someone just being lazy and wanting to turn into a beast.
You know i have to admit there is a part of me that is worried that this individual whomever they may be is in real trouble and maybe antagonizing them is probably not the smartest thing to do. Maybe im an asshole, but the world is a shit ton more a kick in the nuts i will ever be.
Either explain the exact medical reason you are here or get gone. Simple.
AnonOh dear I didn't even notice you're a mod, you suck at your job.
That's Not Nice...Now you probably hurt his feelings and he's going to have to take an anavar only cycle to get "jacked" <is that what the kids say these days? And he'll use his new found jackness to burry his feelings instead of talking it out with someone who can help him....
Oh wait that's you...if you have a real problem PM me well talk..I promise not to tell the community... scouts honor...tell you what FR headed your way...but don't disrespect our mods
AnonJacked? I couldn't give a flying fuck about getting 'jacked'. They're luxury problems, if that's what I was so bothered about then my life would be so easy.
I don't think you'd understand my problem as you value me as a stupid stereotypical teenager, maybe I am. My problem may be petty in some people's minds but we don't all think the same. Some people may see my problem as a joke, maybe they will not even see it as a problem, but in my obsessive mind it's enough to top myself. But then again I'm not right in the head (as some people would say) and I know this but it doesn't change how I see things.
Again, you are really in the wrong place. I remember being 19, it sucked pretty bad sometimes but all I can tell you is it is but a moment. Your life is just beginning to ramp up. You should go out of your way to not complicate your life any more than you absolutely have to. Get busy living..
AnonThe beginning of what? Hell?
You missed the end of that sentence off, it should be: "Get busy living or get busy dying".
Listen to me ok, you need to tell us what has got you so upset. I promise you nobody is going to laugh at you here. Believe it or not there are alot of educated reasonable human beings here and no matter how silly you think your being we have seen it before and if you can be helped here you will be. For god sakes just spit it out child!
No, at 19 you only have life ahead. My son is your age, you really just need to snap the fuck out of it. You are a man now, time to take responsibility and grow up. It sucks but it is what we all do.
AnonIf only it was that easy. I don't think you fully understand mental illnesses. I don't have a father because he took his own life after losing to his depression, he never just snapped out of it.
You think you are the only one that has lost someone? Trust me you are not. Just because your father took his own life has nothing to do with whether you will or not. You are responsible for you now. Your destiny is yours to decide. You want to check out before you have even lived? I guess that is your choice but you know nothing yet. I would suggest hanging around for awhile and seeing what is out here..
LMAO! Thanks. Considering your standing here I think I will survive.
AnonI'll leave, but before I do I have one final question for you.
I don't know if it's true with this forum but with all other steroid forums you always see senior members bitching about how they always try to help keep the younger generation safe by giving them advice. Well on this forum it seems like you'd all rather see me cause myself damage, why wouldn't you at the minimum offer me some kind of preventative health suggestions, like take something to protect my liver. Do you simply not care? Or are you too stuck up to answer?
Why the secrecy? You're anonymous on here so why the cryptic attitude?
You want a preventative health answer? here it is, "Don't take the drug"
Here's what I think, you're overweight and want to lose weight. You've googled and came across steroids and figure that might be your best bet. But you're scared you want to take the safest steroid and anavar seems to be the right choice. But you're still scared and you're hoping someone will put your mind at ease by suggesting dosage or another drug.
So in reality the best way to help you is to not help you at all.
If keeping you scared (and you should be at your age) keeps you off the that is the minimum offer we can give you as a preventative health suggestion.
We care. Are you to stuck up to listen?
AnonBecause it's still an open forum, ever heard of anxiety or OCD? I still feel anxiety and obsessively over think things even on a board where I'm totally anonymous, I don't expect you to understand as you'd have to have my mindset to understand this.
If I don't take it then I'll be constantly regretting not doing and then my depression will point back to me not at least giving it a try and then I'll probably meet my end.
You're completely wrong, in my mind being overweight isn't even an issue. Who cares if someone is overweight, they can lose weight easily, hell I bet over half this world's population are overweight. I wish being overweight was my issue. I'm very skinny to be fair, I'd rather be overweight than skinny. However these things do not bother me.
Believe I'm not scared of taking this drug, I don't care how badly it messes me up. I'm merely taking this so that I can at least say I've tried. Also, by taking this my mind will ease of with all the depressive thoughts as I will know that I'm making an attempt at trying to fix my problem(s).
I think my only fear is if it amplifies my depression, OCD or anxiety. I'm already at the verge of snapping and at the moment fortunately it's only me that I'd hurt but I do feel anger towards society so I really hope such a low dose would have no effect on my mental state.
I think you need more help than any AAS are going to give you. If you are depressed you should go through the proper channels for depression, not a steroid review site.
AnonAs stupid as it sounds this is my way of dealing with it. My depression all leads back to one problem, anavar may help fix this problem, it will more than likely not, but it's worth a try. I've tried the usual SSRI's and nothing works. The only last thing I can try is to attempt to fix these problem(s) which is hard as they're mostly genetic problems which are near impossible to fix. Anavar is a last ditch attempt at this, if it doesn't work (probably won't) then I give up. At least by taking this I give myself a couple of months thinking time.
Oh boy now we have nothing better to do than tell you what you already know........great!
AnonWe dont give advice to guys under 25, just kinda the way it is around here. And the fact that you are not disclosing much in your reasoning behind taking anavar is concerning as well.
Im not gonna try and talk you out of anything, your an adult and can make your own decisions. But you're not going to get much help here. Its just not a good idea to do this. I advise you to research much more and rethink your decision. Good luck.
AnonThanks, you also seem like someone who won't flame me over something they know nothing about.
I plan to take Anavar at 5mg a day for medical reasons, I don't want to say anymore than that.
I just want to know how to stay as safe as possible? Please see my post below.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnonIm not gonna flame you, im genuinely curious. And if people get angry and wanna flame you, who fuckin cares? You're posting anonymously on an internet board, nobody knows you here. Peoples comments should never hold any weight over you.
AnonYeah but this isn't a forum full of medical experts, scientists or intellectual people in the medical field. It seems to be full of aggressive flamers. I think it'd make things worse posting my medical reasons here. I may still get some advice yet. If not then I'll await for the responses to come in on the medical/health boards.
I only posted here as I thought that bodybuilders will still go through the same procedures to stay on the safe side as someone would who had a medical condition. It seems no one wants to share any advice or help for me to stay on the safe side. I don't think users here realize that by not giving me any help they are just causing more damage, not preventing it.
AnonWell then I would advise you to wait until you get legitimate medical advice. I.e. an actual.doctor, not someone who could pretend to be anyone on any internet board. Be it health or bodybuilding related or otherwise.
Yep stupid ignorant us. I usually just assume that im a dumbass as well lol.
AnonAre you angry at me for something? I think you need to calm down.
Look if you want to send me to time out and give me a spanking just say so.
AnonOh and I hope it really pisses you off that I'm going to be taking this, haha you mad you cunt?