posted Fri, 05/11/2012 - 10:28
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Im currently runing a 400 test c split monday and thursday cycle with a 3 week kicker of dbol. Im starting the 5th week and am up ten lbs. i was wondering tho with gyno can you see it or just feel the lumps? I have ben taking .5 adex everyother day dince day one but think i have a small case of gyno still. Ne suggestions? I currently weigh 180 with about 12 percent body fat and 21 years old
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Myobolix-PharmaYou're 21 years old brother.. cycle off and get on a clean diet. you're cutting yourself short of reaching your full, natural potential.
Yes I am 21. There all loads of guys on here that arent 25 and are lying about there age. I think the fact that I'm man enough to say my actual age and to take yalls heat (and advice because trust me everyones advice on here means a lot ) shows a little sumtin. I'm doing everything smart tho. After this cycle I'm waitin at least a year or more before my next
Myobolix-PharmaI have respect for that man.. generally it goes (and I see it with local guys) first cycle...to "When can I do my next cycle, and what can I add on"
glad to see you're about doing it right.. if I were you, I would get your cycle planned, buy it all at once so you aren't shorted or scrambling for post cycle or an extra bottle of test.. then set yourself a goal like you're going to start a strict preliminary diet to cut down to 10% BF prior to pinning. this pre notion will actually help you smoothly transition into starting a cycle and have all the mental cravings for shit food out of your head for the time being..
Thats a good idea man. Iv put a little thought into my next cycle i was planing on runing just a test cyp cycle at 500 mgs a week pinnin twice a week with maybe a prop kicker this time. I dnt wana add to much csuse i know i can gain so much with a good ol test cycle. Of course adex as sn ai and clomid and nolva as pct. just a general outline so far. Just working and focusing on this cycle for now though. Thanks for adviceee
dbolzGyno at 21? You know that will stay with you for life if you are not carefull? Way too young to be doing gear for that exact reason. The depression that comes with gyno can cripple a person let alone a young fella like you. Up your adex to 1mg ed and even 1mg every 12h if needed until your symptoms are gone. Dont run another cycle till you are at least 25. If upping the adex doesn't work you need to get on letro like others suggested. You can get letro if you are in the US from the hgh&peptide sources. Once you get lumps/gyno your chances at reversal are minimal. You have more chances at reversal if you come off and hit homeostasis again since you are young. Bad call on getting so early on steroids and esp dbol
Yaa I stoped the dbol early man. Kinda regret dipping my toes in that bit but the test is coming along very well. I understand that you think I'm to young man but like everyone on here says everyones body is different. I was on a 4000 calorie diet with 200 grams of protien daily with my vitamins, sups, etc and my weight wasn't going newhere. iv had to same body type since I was 18 and it hasn't gone anywhere. Some people just need that extra push to gain the weight and I dnt plan to cycle again for at least another year after this. Going to try and gain natural and then go from there. I respect your advice tho man and thanks for the help.
dbolzI understand your reasoning to get on the juice (not that i approve it though), but the side effects that come with the gear such as gyno, hairloss, libido etc all require a tonne of maturity. Even us that are in the right age sometimes struggle to accept them. Since you have stopped the dbol try 1mg adex for a few days and it should revert any estrogen domination back in testosterones favor, should also take any nipp sensitivity/puffiness away. Make sure you read up on low estrogen (in men) sides so you know when to stop the 1mg dose. Also after the sides are gone tapper down the arimidex dont go straight to 0,5mg eod cause you will rebound, give say 2-3 days for each dose change you make. There is no point in creating a stunning body if you cant take your shirt of cause you are embarrased about gyno thats why i say give it a few years do a lot more research and you wont run into gyno issues in the future. Respect for revealing your age they are indeed too many that hide behind their litte finger.
Thanks man I really do take you more experienced guys advise and go with it. The gyno isn't bad tho. Its just little extra fat on the lateral sides of my nips. It does take away from the bottom cuts a bit but nothing terrible. And okkk taper after making changes you got ittt. Wasn't sure if it was really gyno tho cause the nipps havnt ben sore or sensitive at all. Thanks again appreciate all the adviceee
dbolzIf its minor and it doesnt bother you its all good you caught it early, once you up the AI you will dry out a lot so you will know for sure if it was water or tissue. Keep us updated with your results. It could well be fat storage as you say but usually when its on the pecs and lateral sides its usually gyno. If you had tissue from when you were younger you might not even get sensitivity or soreness. Whatever the case adex should halt it.
Alright thanks again guys. Will post in a few days whether the 1mg a day helps. Will be tappering it after about 4 days.
+1... Nice new badge.. :-)
dbolzThanks mate
Frankieyour a smart guy and i like you(no homo)and the way you go about things
good job man keep it up
thumbs up from me
dbolzI like/respect you too as well mate if there is something to be sourced you are the one to find it. Respect for your research skills. Sure hope this guy listens though and also hope all goes well with your tooth op
Man, I'm very gyno prone. even at .5mg letro EOD i still get it sometimes at 600-750mgs of test a week, I have to take .5 ED or 1mg EOD along with 10mg of nolv ED, to be clear of it. Its very annoying, like you I started cycling younger, actually at 19. Im still young at 23 but I have to, to be do any kind of damage at higher level competitions. But honestly man, get your hands on some letro if you keep getting worse, that shit will knock it out. but try .5 adex ED first. Also try to cut your body fat down to lower than 10, to my understanding (correct me if i'm wrong) it makes it hard for you body to create breast tissue without fat.
Good luck brother, and make sure you have a PCT if this is your first cycle! Don't kill your 2 boys!
Ya man I have pct on deck already. I have clomid and nolva and plan on starting two weeks after last shot. And I have no idea where to get letro from man. Ne suggestions??? Ill start taking the adex .5 daily tho and see if that helps. Iv always had a bit of fat it my pecks especially on the lateral sides of my nips. Its not to bad but I think I have a small case of it. Thanks for the help dwreckkk
your too young to be on aas... eat some food, lift hard and come back in a few years...
for me , gyno feels like razorblades.. you would know.. some people it itches, or is hot to the touch. yes there are other signs.. also could be water retention from the dbol you took...
now stop running cycles till you grow up.. k?? :-)
Good idea man ill shut down mid cycle after my balls have shut down already. Lol iv slready started man i know im to young but i did it already. Thanks for the advice tho. Havnt felt ne pain so thats good. Thanks again man.