First Cycle opinions
This will be my first cycle I have done a lot of reading but still am looking for some advice. A am very lean and well defined and would like to gain lean mass and not just look big while loosing my deffinition
I was thinking/ advised:
25mg dbol a day for 5 weeks
500mg test c twice a week for 12 weeks
and starting at week 15 and 16 150mg clomid, week 17 and 18 100mg clomid a day and week 18 50mg clomid a day.
I know some are against d-bol on a first cycle due to if you have problems so you know whats causing it. But from reading I have seen that some say it would be easy to pin point as the test will take 5 to 7 weeks to kick in. So if you have issues before that you would know its the dbol.
Also I see people saying to eat 4K to 5K calories a day. I see these recommendations but most of these guys are way taller and bigger and weigh easily twice what I do. So should I reduce that intake in half due to me being a really short and small guy what would you experienced guys recommend? would 2.5 to 3K be enough?
I also got 25gauge x 1'' needles. Should that be sufficient for most all injection sites? I see most people use 1.5 but can I get away with 1 as I have very low bodyfat?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
~Johnathon
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Don't use gear yet mate. I can guarantee you will regret the decision, you might be able to pack on a few lbs quick but I absolutely guarantee you won't be able to hold the mass after you come off the juice.
The only things you'd accomplish by cycling right now = getting soft for a bit (IF you do increase calories) and possibly hurting endocrine system.
stunnerhrThis is all you need bro has definitely made me gain weight off cycle.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/for-guys-that-seriously...
agree
Sorry forgot to include stats in thanks for the reminder.
Age:26
5'6''
weight 132
BF Around 15 I think?
RustyhookerFor all natural....thats awesome. Please hit diet guys up and get the next 8months of just proper foods. You will add mass with no doubts. Been in your shoes bro.
Sorry guys I did forget to include that.
age:26
Height 5'6''
Weight 132
BF Around 15?
I do have a picture posted on here if you want to see physically where I am at naturally.
If you do not have the mind set to take the safer path you have no business running a cycle. Very important to get your head straight be for jumping in. The statement you made about the dbol tells me you are not mature enough to make sound life choices. Maybe you should spend 6 months or so researching and getting you diet and work out dialed in. You might need a couple years. It needs to be about safety and longevity. Until you see that all you should do is research.
Once your able to take the pebble from my hand grasshopper you will have true enlightenment ......
hold onto all your gear you bought....and do a diet cycle. gear will not help at this point because you need food and lots of it. I am only 1 inch taller and have about 70 pounds on you. go over to the diet section and do more research. After you gained about 20-30 pounds you will have a good start to getting quality gains.
your other post you say you are 142 pounds..this one stats say 135. now its 132, im starting to smell some horseshit.
Rustyhookerbingo! His pix are posted and foods will bliw himn up 30lbs easily
You think eating more would make that much more of a difference rusty?
If a bunch of experienced guys are saying to eat more they look like they know what they are talking about and I will up my diet a lot while keeping it clean. I will hold off on doing a cycle for awhile I see where you guys are coming from.
Do you think I can bulk up without adding bodyfat?
And I will ask some questions in the diet section tomorrow but I'm tired and need to head to bed.
RustyhookerGood foods and cardio. Look at the mma fighters. Your height and 165 with no fat. Hard work n sweat.
Magnifying glass up top. Sgtstedanko....click on him.....his forums. Full menues posted by him.
Yes sir you need a fork and knife not 25 gauge needles...good luck and eat well!
You will add fat there is no way around that; but you can manage the amount of fat by making sure you run a clean diet; clean meaning good foods like chicken breast, tilapia, lean red meat, vegetables and lots of them, white meat turkey, e.t.c. Also stay away from fast food, processed and boxed foods; they are LOADED with sodium and very high in fat.
I totally agree. My mentor said to me, years back when I asked him same question "you can't serve two gods at the same time". Essentially you either bulk or cut. I saw your picture, you will lose some definition especially around your mid section. However I too agree at this point you can get away from diet.
I hope I don't get whipped for saying something bout his cycle but in my humble opinion 1000mg of test to start with is a bit much. I just said this because at times guys come here with their mind's made up. So, to be on safe side I had to mention tht I feel test is a bit too much. You should take as little as possible to get where you wanna get. More ain't always good. Also, he mentioned dbol so better to read this through:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/listening-to-y...
once again, I strongly believe at your age and in your condition you'll do enough damage naturally in gym. Also, when people say don't go on juice coz you're gonna pretty much lose all once you go off is coz you don't have tht mass base built naturally. Tht, ive noticed and read, stays so its always good to build naturally a solid base. Also, you're young guy, one has to be "least" over 30 (at minimum) to cycle (ive read and heard)
Thanks for the thought out reply. I meant 250 mg twice a week. But I'm going to listen to the guys on here and wait 3 months and see how changing my diet will work out. I try and stay open minded.
Thanks for the informative link, appreciate it!
~johnathon
Now this statement deserves karma. Everything revolves around food. until you master the diet you will go backwards.
Yes deffinatly will up what I'm eating.
142 was a typo
YOU JUST POSTED BRO... FULL AND COMPLETE STATS OR NO SERVICE HERE