Feeling more Stable on Test E than test Prop
I recently attempted to start a low dose cycle using Test Prop and Test E. I fell into the BS of people saying Test E takes 3-4 weeks to "kick in" which isn't true at all. I accidently ended up gaining close to 10 lbs in 7 days using Prop as a kickstart combined with the enanthate. It pushed my levels up way too quick and resulted in uncomfortable side effects.
Throughout this time I realized that I feel extremely unstable when dosing prop. Even low doses of 50mgs I seem to get an estrogen rebound and anxiety. When using a low dose AI it seemed to make me feel worse as if it killed off too much estrogen.
Is it possible that I'm just really sensitive to spikes in estrogen where even though my levels arn't that high I can still feel the difference?
I even let some time plass to let the Test E I orginally dosed clear and let the Prop clear so I could try dosing Prop by itself but even at 50mg doses it would result in an a rebound of feeling hot, flushed and anxious. I couldn't understand why I was getting such side effects at tiny doses. I knew my Test was somewhat low before starting but this seemed strange. I had the realization that Prop was bouncing my Test and Estrogen Levels up and down too fast and switching to a longer ester may be smoother. So far its been True.
I feel alot better dosing Test E. For the time being I'm just going with TRT doses of 120-150mg's a week due to fear of side effects such as overheating, extreme flushing and itchy skin.
Has anyone heard of not being able to tolerate Prop as well as Enanthate?
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Hey man everyone is different. Me? I'm the opposite. The closest i ever got to "roid rage" was my fuse was a tad shorter on test e and anadrol, especially first thing in the morning when people would talk to me before I ate. I tried test prop and npp and boom! I was so calm and chill, laughing at everything, even laughing at stuff that would normally piss me off. I was more bob Marley than the hulk on test and a 19nor. To each his own man, there is no exact science with pharmaceuticals because even clinically tested over and over again, drugs illicit different responses to everyone. Hell, Advil makes me fall asleep better than NyQuil. What it comes down to is following and doing what works best for you
It goes to show things can effect us all so differently.
AnonYou might try switching to everyday inject for prop. Makes a big difference for some people.
You're using TRT doses? Are you a TRT patient? If not, using a TRT dose isn't going to do shit for you but shut you down and replace your natural test. What is your cycle history and what are your goals? Edit: also, how long did you wait for the enanthate to clear before you tried prop again?
I'm self prescribing. I don't have bloods but I know for a fact my Test levels where shot to shit due to being on Suboxone for 6 years.
I planned to do a light cycle but realized my levels were probably so low it was a shock to my system. That and the fact I'm sensitve to Prop.
I waited 2 weeks for the Test E to clear and began dosing prop at 50mg EoD which still seemed to be too much.
So now that I switched to 125mg's E4 days of enanthate I'm still making gains. I understand a TRT dose wouldn't normally do much but if your Test is Low it will. Again no blood test. I tried to get one but the doctor wouldn't do it because I stupidly told him I was taking low doses of DHEA and he told me I had to wait. I lost patience and ordered.
My question was asking more about the stability of Test Prop. Everyone seems to say your levels are more stable when using prop but I'm finding it to be the opposite and I was just curious if some people are just really sensitive to the stuff.
I've really just been trying to put on some lean muscle. Not get huge. Figured a low dose 250mg a week cycle would be low enough to not make it obvious I'm on something and minimize sides but using Prop as a kickstart complicated things. Then when trying to switch to Prop completely was still having side effects.
I'm 32 5'10 165 Lean
I've done 1 Test only cycle years ago and a few Prohormone cycles
No offense, but without bloods, you can't honestly say that.
As for the weight you gained the first 7 days, it's estro related brother. Estrogen adds water, which contributes to your weight gain. It doesn't take 3-4 weeks for long ester to kick in. But it does take approximately that long for plasma concentration levels to be reached, which is the reason behind the 4 weeks kicker.
Your AI approach when taking prop needs to be a bit different than when dosing long ester. And you will always have more stability with single long ester test than shorts or blended.
x2 ... To much guesswork without having bloods done. I wouldn't adjust dosing so rapidly.