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Experiences With EQ

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Has anyone had any poor experiences with EQ? Not specific labs but in general. I would like to try a cycle incorporating it so reaching out to those with experience. If you have had very good results please comment as well.

ashop's picture

I've always loved EQ. Ran in in many different milligram amounts. 400-600mg is what worked well for me. Nice leans muscle gains, strength and road map vascularity is what it does for me.

Mrcoolbeans's picture

If you do run it, make sure you run it for a MINIMUM of 12, 16 being better. I ran for the first 8 weeks of my prep cycle last time and notice NOTHING. And that could be a number of things.
Didnt run it long enough.
Didnt run enough of it... (400mg week)
Could be just my body doesnt respond well to it.
That is my experience and thoughts.
I was running dbol for the first 3 weeks and started tren on week 4 just to give you an idea what else i ran. Could have been those reason also why i didnt notice....maybe due to the other compounds and them over powering the eq....

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Thanks to everyone that has taken time to respond.

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

i love EQ. nothing else gives my skin a nicer look to it. alot of people will say its worthless and when it comes to building tissue or giving the physique a certain look i agree other compounds are far superior, but what EQ does is different than anything else. this is just my own opinion but listen closely:

EQ is for cosmetics! what makes it special is its ability to add a certain polished look to an already impressive physique. it makes everything "pop" more. muscles look more dense, veins are more pronounced, skin tone looks amazing, everything just looks more polished and "nice" looking.

you want to purely build tissue? nandrolone and test are better compounds than EQ for this imo
you want to bring out shape and separation? tren is king
you want to blow up 3d and increase diameter of muscle bellies but stay tight? anadrol is king
you want to eliminate water from under the skin? bring in conditioning? masteron is where its at
you want "thickness"? test is best

you want to look polished and have nice looking skin? and more visually aesthetic? HERE IS WHAT EQ IS FOR!

when comparing it to other compounds in certain aspects it falls short as you can see. but what it does best cannot be matched. also on a side note, my endurance goes wayyy up on EQ. i can train and f#ck for hours, get up and go do more cardio after too lol. just be wary of anxiety when running higher amounts. 1g/week had me an anxious wreck. even though blood pressure, iron and hematocrit was all within range. can just mess with your head a bit

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zeb0312's picture

All compounds treat everyone different in some way or another.....

Eq raises my blood pressure to much to stay on it so not worth the sides to me......

Dacky's picture

Love Bold but I prefer the cypionate ester. One thing to watch out for is that bold metabolises into a potent AI in some. I hardly aromatise and on 900mg bold cyp, 400mg test and 50mg ed proviron my estro was pretty low. Blood work was key to figuring this out and getting it sorted. Great results in terms of keepable mass gains.

zeb0312's picture

Blood work was key to figuring this out.

Bingo key word there is blood work.... Seems lot of people do the old bro science method which is ok for shooting the shit but not worth your health....

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tzelukie's picture

I love eq. Trying Cyp ester for the first time now. See how it stacks up. Plan on running it for 16-18 weeks depending on whether or not I get anxiety. Last run of eq gave me anxiety at week 16. Different ester though. Hopefully it doesn't come sooner

Xrated's picture

Eq is just like any other compound really, they are all great Lol. U just have to experiment and find what works for u. And a dosage that fits u to reap all the benefits.

Stacking eq w test alone would b a really good start. Theirs so many things u could do. For example, if u r wanting to bulk a good start would b 500mgs of test w 500mgs of eq. And as u got later n on the weeks and everything was ok u could up the dosage a little.

If wanting to recomp and lean out some lower test and start at 500mgs of eq. Same thing and up the dose a little to see what happens, if and I say if u aren't experiencing any high bp or anxiety issues. Bc those r the two biggest negative sides I've found w eq. All just depends on how u take and w other compounds man. Everyone different, I've ran 550mgs all the way to 1,000mgs. And have found that 500-600mgs is perfect for me. Regardless of what I'm trying to do. And don't forget diet is first and most important. Good luck.

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peterwinkle's picture

I ran a fairly high dose EQ for 20 weeks with a low dose of test, and absolutely loved it. It was for a bulking cycle, and I think it was really effective. My appetite increased a lot, joints felt great, endurance went up, strength went up... those effects made it easy to bulk. It was more of a slow and steady bulk, I didn't put on much bodyfat during the process even though my calories were a lot higher, but I also really didn't lose anything when I came off.

I am very sensitive to gyno, the low test and help from EQ made estrogen control really easy. I really had no side effects to speak of... with the other cycles I've ran by the time the cycle is ending I'm ready to come off, with this one I feel like I could have run it a lot longer and been fine. There are compounds that can have a lot more dramatic gains than EQ... but with the slow and steady gains, ease of maintaining after the cycle, and low side effects (for me personally) and overall sense of wellbeing, EQ is my favorite so far in my limited experience.

You can get into trouble with EQ if your blood thickens from it. As others have mentioned, make sure you monitor and take proper precautions: donate blood often, have bloodwork done, and check blood pressure regularly.

peterwinkle's picture

I've been on TRT for a year and a half, so no recovery necessary. Ive still been gaining 2 months into TRT dose though, I really didn't lose anything after ending it.

true grit's picture

Damn! -107 and still active. That's gotta be a record.

llubtip's picture

Great info! I really appreciate it!

tzelukie's picture

Love it. 600 a week is my cap. Bp buddies and screaming headaches. 600 a week. Donate week 8-14 all is good. Great strength lean beef added and held after with a proper pct. bp bp bp. Watch it. Learn it. Work with it. Low dose aspirin twice a day. Keep the blood thin

XmadXscientist's picture

I ran it at 500mg for 20 weeks with 250mg test e and gained 19lbs. I'm now three months post cycle and holding onto 13-14lbs of extra muscle. I donated blood at least twice during that timeframe. I checked my HGB and HCT almost weekly and would recommend getting a BP/HR monitor if you do not already have one. I switched to bold cyp the last 6 weeks and will run that again in the future. Again it's really important to keep an eye on you HGB though it can spike almost overnight sometimes.

ashop's picture

I've always had real good results with EQ. Makes me strong and really vascular. I have used it many ways up to 1 gram per week but found 400-600mg wk to be my sweet spot.

livingthedream's picture

Good and bad. My experience is it is necessary to run over 16 weeks continuously to reap the true benefits. However, once I get over 600mg per week it messes with me both with my libido and anxiety. 600mg weekly is my cap. It also really pushed my RBC numbers high enough to cause concern with my doc (I do bloodwork regularly). During that time I also donated blood and it seemed to alleviate the issues some.

I know of people that run 900-1200mg per week with nothing but positive benefits but I'm not one of those unfortunately.

Those that equate it to Deca (as I did erroneously in my early days with gear) are very mistaken.

greenlantrn2's picture

My personal experience was running EQ at 600 mg per week, originally planned on 16 weeks. I stopped at 10 weeks. My blood pressure was getting high and I did not like how I was feeling. I did love the endurance and strength that was slowly building. I did give blood right about the 10 week mark also. I probably will not run EQ again.

Jeeves83's picture

Bro that is EXACTLY what happened to me, stopped running it at week 10. I just felt really off, was running it along with 750mg test/ week, 40mg dbol/day, and 50mg of proviron/ day, was running the Eq at 600 and had really bad anxiety and just an off feeling and also my libido was shit and usually with the Test/provi combo I'll Fuck anything with a pulse. So yeah good to see I'm not the only one. I have been off it for almost two weeks now and am still on the test, provi and dbol and feel better, still not 100% but I know the Eq takes a while to get out of your system

PPGfreak's picture

Ran eq on a cut cycle at 600mg for 16 weeks and loved the endurance it gave me and lean muscle too. Now bulking with it at 1,000mg and loving it as well. Makes me eat none stop. It can be used either way with great results.

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llubtip's picture

Thank you for the info. Did you give blood?

llubtip's picture

Good to know and I had thought of front loading after looking at the graphs.

zeb0312's picture

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Corvette.... Duh.......lol......

llubtip's picture

Really just asking for the experience of others but here are my stats.

40 years old
6'1"
185lbs
13-15% BF

I have done the following
500mg/week Test E - 8 weeks
500mg/week Test E, 40mg/ED Var - 8 weeks
250mg/E5D 16 weeks, 30mg/ED Var weeks 1-4 and weeks 12-16

Looking to drop a bit more fat by boosting my cardio. Eating lean and want to harden up.

llubtip's picture

Thanks man. Not looking to gain much in weight department. Looking more to harden up and any gains would be lean while trimming fat. I didn't mention proviron but have used it each cycle. Appreciate the response.

llubtip's picture

Thanks man. Appreciate the info.

shiva4's picture

are you prone to high HCT and HgB?

llubtip's picture

no sir.

ChickenBirdOfGains's picture

What doses and how long were you planning on running it?

llubtip's picture

test e @ 250mg every 5 days
eq @ 400 every 5 days

16 - 18 weeks

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