posted Fri, 07/11/2014 - 18:46
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Do you get the same results from Oral Tren as Injectable Tren?
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First thing first, I always thought about taking Oral Tren but I want to keep my liver healthy. The only thing I hate about the injectables are the Tren coughs and havng to pin daily. If I take Oral Tren I wouldn't get tren cough, but I will have to take a liver supporter. Is oral Tren worth it?
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do you get tren cough from oral tren..? And has anyone heard of oral tren spray?
Me too. I bought some and it's been sitting in my stash for a long time. Just too toxic. It's been around forever and is not very popular.
IronMonkThe bottom line is this steroid binds to the AR very strongly and is very liver toxic. It doesn't matter what you take for your liver it wont help as much as you'll need.
Go with tren ace back load in a slin pin to make ED pinning easier but oral tren is no substitute. Check out the price on it...cheap...newb cheap. Only newbs use it andd you'll notice the vets on this board dont. Theyre smarter.
No, when you add a methyl group to a steroid it dramatically changes how the compound behaves. To make a steroid orally active they add a methyl group to the 17th carbon in the alpha position. And this makes it so you it survives first past metabolism through the liver. Even the tiniest alterations dramatically changes the effects of the steroid. Just because they make an oral version of the compound doesn't mean it's anything like the injectable version. The trend seems to be they become significantly more powerful when you methylate the steroid. Like do you knkw what dbol is if you take away the methyl group that makes it orally active? It's equipoise. Adding a methyl group to masteron and what do you get ? Superdrol, and I'm sure you know dbol almost the exact opposite as eq, and superdrol is way more powerful then mast. So add a methyl group to trenbolone and you can basically assume it's gonna be way more powerful, and toxic, and most likely behave much differenty.
Bottom line, stay away from that shit, the risks outweigh the reward.
do you think I should cancel my order then?
Lol
Idk, personally it doesn't have it's place in my arsenal of drugs. I was just trying to explain to him that just because it's called "oral tren" doesn't mean it behaves amyrhinf like tren. Although it does seem to be closer to it's injectable version then say dbol to eq or mast to superdrol. It's up to you bro, it's extremely powerful and toxic drug. Liver toxicity is typically overhyped with orals but not this one. This shit makes halo look mild. But, just be extremely careful and pay attention to your body. Id rather not go into doses and cycle lengths on the open forum tho but I'm sure you know what your plan is and if not shoot me a pm and I can tell you what I knkw about it. If you knew what you were getting into then don't cancel it, but if you were expecting basically a pill form of trenbolone then I might consider canceling it cause like I said adding a methyl group completely changes the steroids effects. Think of test and methyl test, 1-test cyp and m1t, eq-dbol mast-superdrol and how different they become once there made orally active. And now tren, and already extremely powerful steroid, made into an oral version. It's gonna me some potent and toxic shit.
I was just toying with you, the advice sounded good to me. but I did just order some simply because i havent tried it. im not a big time oral guy either, mainly use them 3-4 times a week as preworkout now days.
lol I figured. I mean on paper besides the extreme toxicity it looks like it actually can produce some huge gains in size in a very short period of time unike halo. . Im sure you know what your doing so i don't have to tell you, but for this particular one I think 3 weeks is the very max. Im seen reports of some pretty incredible grains in just 2 weeks, but ive also seen reports like this from a vet on another forum i lurk:
"Along these lines I took mtren at 1.5mg/day several years ago. Within 3 weeks i was in the hospital with rhabdomyolosis and renal failure. I think oral toxicity is often overstated - however the toxicity of this compound is not - I know that first hand. I have run very high dose inj tren , i hace run some very heacy cycles. I will never touch this compound again."
And they say it binds like 5 times stronger to the AR then DHT which is crazy considering how strong dht binds. Definitely an interesting compound, just use extreme caution.
well fcking duh! I cant believe the guy couldnt feel the toxicity inside him! its dosed at 250mcg and thats what ill most likely take 3-4 times a week pre workout. I would never use this as an oral for a cycle. I tried to use superdrol as an oral and after a few days dropped it, I cant even use that stuff for preworkout because i feel it going through my system. if m-tren turns out like that itll sit in the box waiting for someone to use it or the toilet to swallow it.
Ya I've never heard of anyone going above 750-1000mcg ed, so 1500mcg is kinda retarted. Most people report great gains at 500mcg ed. Superdrol for me I didn't feel lkke shit, I was just really tired all the time. That as the only side I had. Ran it for 3 weeks and would literally nap twice a day I couldn't wait to be done with it. I honestly thought it was overrated, but maybe mine was starting to degrade? It wasn't ugl it was astualh transform SD extreme from before it was made illegal. It was about 1.5 years expired when I finally used it. Gains were ok but nothin crazy after 3 weeks, half at 20mgs the second half at 1.5. My blood work looked great just a few short weeks after. So I guess my support stack was on point.
seems way to high to me. all the orals I have used come at a close to maximum dose, d-bol 50mg, winny 50mg, t-bol 50mg, superdrol 20mg, halo 10mg, cheque drops 10mg, var 50mg, etc....double the dose on any of these and your at my maximum dose, some of them I dont even double. m-tren comes in 250mcg, your talking about 2-3-4-5-6 times the dose.....IDK but for me I dont see the reasoning for that high of a dose. risk vs reward is not there for me.
Ya like I said most people use and report great gains on 500mcg ed for a few weeks, I just said I've never heard of anyone going above 750-1000 and like you said that's on the very high end. Don't see many people doing that. And then you get the one guy who takes 1500 and what happens? He ends up in the hospital with kidney failure. I don't see myself using it anytime soon, or really ever. I just feel like I gain make gains with more mild compounds. Bjt never say never, after this covro you got me thinking about it now lol. Good job noid.
M-tren at 500mcg preworkout for me made me sweaty, angry, and strong. Ran it for a week and got tired of it. But I have heard of some guys running insanely successful cutters with it.
Have you ever taken Oral Tren? If so what were your experience on it? And I agree with you. People need to respect oral steroids. The harshes thing I've taken was Superdrol, I felt lethargic and also piss was dark color.
I havent personally used it but ive read alot about it. And some of the old school gurus like bill roberts have written alot about it and ive read all there writings on it. And its fucking toxic as shit. This shit is way more powerful and toxic then superdrol. If oral tren was available like superdrol used to be OTC alot of people would have probably died or alteast seen alot more cases of liver failure, which was happening to kids back when superdrol was sold at gnc. Superdrol is a very powerful and toxic steroid. But oral tren is on another level.
IronMonkSame here bro. Orall tren, halo and superdrol all gave my piss dark.. NO BUENO
I also noticed the tip of my dick hurts when I pee
Ive played with all the orals there are and after all that i stick with injects now. Only one worth a damn is anavar/proviron stack. You'll lose weight high libido vascular and strong no sweats no milk no massive liver damage or dark piss and both are human grade steroids easily attainable and have great synergy....
Check out UDCA liv52 NAC and milk thistle
You weren't raw doggin' randoms were ya?
lol i was guilty of this when i was younger. Thank god i never caught anything. Alwways wrap it for randos.
How did it feel when you had milk? Did you feel it coming out of your nips? Any pain or ect? Sounds gross!
Was looking into this and apparenlty its dosed with mcg so its probably hella strong to use mcg as a dosing
Yup, 1mg is above the recommend dose, if that tells you anything lol. Shit is strongg.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/too-much-oral-...
Good post. I hate how people that are new to gear say theyll just do orals because they're scared of needles and think that oils are more dangerous, which is the other way around.
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The real issue is finding legit oral tren. Honestly, I'd rather pin. Harsh as fuck orals don't appeal to me. Plus oils just work better. And last, who the fuck knows what's in those pills...
That's what I was thinking. The liver part is what I'd be worried about.
IronMonkNope.
Used two brands both were legit. More sides same results.
Use slin pins if ED pins bother you. Liver will thank you. Tren cough subsides after time. Liver damage won't....stick with injects. Tren ace has enough sides dont wanna add liver damage to the list, dr.bill roberts compared its toxicity to mega dosing anadrol and halotestin concurrently. They dont make liver supps strong enough to off put this compounds toxicity.
Compare gains to sides. ...not worth it...
I've personally took Anadrol before while bulking, shit bloated me like crazy haha. You think Oral Tren is more harsh than Superdrol?
IronMonkYes definitely. Ive dosed superdrol pretty high before and oral tren at only 1mg ed so 4 x 250mcg pills and they made my sides hurt 2 weeks in. Oral tren also made me milk a bit even on caber amd letro concurrently. ...
Unless your an IFBB pro with alot of money riding on your next comp and top of the line medical backing I wouldn't use it.....
If your hell bent on methyltren use the inject version. ...no pills...
How did it feel when milk came out of your nips? You feel it? Did it sprayed? Fucking gross bro. Sorry to hear.