posted Tue, 05/07/2013 - 11:24
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Deca or EQ
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Just wanted to get some input on deca vs EQ for mass. I've read that EQ is awesome but then others say its not worth it. Ive ran deca several times but never ran eq. What are your thoughts and why?
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im running test e with deca and eq, start of 3rd week and up 4kgs already !!! im having a good sense of well being!! and im already looking thicker and the pumps are great!!
What kind of doses are you taking? And how is the bloat? I always hold a ton of water weight so that why I'm looking for an alternative to deca even though I love the stuff.
i will be honest in what im running even if some people dont like it, im running 1200mgs a week of test e, 600 deca and 600 eq, im only going into 3rd week but yes i would say im holding water, will be starting aromasin this friday, my strength has definatley gone up aswell as weight, and my training partner said i look thicker and more vascular!
1200/600/600 Nice CYCLE!
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Buildbigger86GATOR!!!!! Now that looks like a sexy dosage right there!
Would you agree that this cycle would put on a bunch of quality mass without to much bloat? I'm trying to put together a big bulk cycle. I've ran deca several times and love it but I don't like to look like the Michelin Man. What about running test deca and EQ @ 900 400 600??
RustyhookerStats...priors...goals? Eadier to advise with info
Stats are:
age: 30 height: 6'3" weight: 224 bf: 14%
Cycle history: this will be my 6th cycle. I've ran test e, test cyp, test p, tren a, deca, dbol, drol, and winstrol.
The point of the thread wasn't initially for cycle advise, it was just for a EQ vs Deca comparison. I've ran deca several times and love it but hate the bloat so I'm looking for an alternative so I thought of maybe running EQ instead. I do appreciate the advise though and I'll def take whatever I can get.
RustyhookerThanks for answering. I get Lotta questions for cycles above their skills. Simple is easier.
Eq...as you asked below...yes you can run 800 is serious mass is wanted. A 750test/800eq....if you want to finish dry then simply turn test down low for dryout. Add finishers if you kick with prop. Pay attn to bp because rbc raises and simple dehydration can hurt ya.
Eq is all about patience...i run 600/600 and like it. There's also bold cyp or fronloading for shorter cycles. Eq typically is 16wks min but with frontliad can lower to 12-14.
Deca.....I've not run it simply for a drier run but sheer mass...deca is top. There's guys on here like Sexy Mexy who loves his deca and can show you a drier cycle. Like lowering the deca etc.
If you decide eq then feel free to post up and I'll gladly assist.
I feel ya brother and that was exactly what I was looking for. Like I've said before, I'm also a deca lover but I'm tired of looking like the Michelin man. Plus once you're off the deca, you lose so much water weight, that the actual muscle you gain is probably equal to what you can gain running EQ. My deca cycles usually look Ike this. Deca wk 1-14@ 400mgs/wk test e wk 1-15 @ 900mgs/wk and a prop taper and then normally dbol or drol for the first 5 weeks. So as you can see, I always get a lot of bloat even while running an AI. What do you think of running EQ @ 800 for 16 weeks and test @ 650mgs or 750mgs for 17 wks with a prop taper. I was also looking to possibly add tren a in the mix for the first 10wks and finish with an oral like winstrol or anavar. Would that pack on some real mass or do you think it's to much?
RustyhookerIve done well on simple 600/600 so yes the eq can go higher and test can be adjusted to meet goals. If test is 600 there's less test bloat since eq converts mych less than test.
Tren/eq is bp problems. I like the idea of var,, mast prop for end of cycle with prop taper. If you use finishers turn down the test do those finishers can turn you rocky style. Last time i switched to short Esters while keeping eq where it was. Just depends on gosls of course.
Bulky is fun to a point so i hear ya. If you add 12 on eq.....you generally keep 12. Less vusual shock when you gain 25 and drop 12+ pusdin it out. Lol. But lising water is just part of the gain as the added muscles are still there.
Ok brotha, thanks a lot for your help and your time. +1
Buildbigger86Best point about EQ rusty is that you really do have to have patience. People need to understand the results will come but they do not happen overnight.. Great point
Buildbigger86I love me some EQ broth, but eq has to be run around 12 weeks for best results and gain are slower then deca but you get less sides and develop nice lean hard muscle and great vascularity.
EQ needs more than 12, more like 16. Can be 9-10 weeks before it really kicks in unless its cypionate.
EQ is a great compound if used correctly. I've run multiple EQ cycles, drop me a live if you need help putting together.
Buildbigger86FR SENT
Buildbigger86Yes your correct, i run 16 week eq cyp cycles as well but i try not to tell people that i just started speaking with and dont much info on them run like 16 weeks cycles till i know their history and everything. You understand where i am coming from brotha?
I hear you.
Yeah, I was planning a 16 week cycle and have also read that EQ should be longer to be affective.
OP be aware the buildbigger is talking about a different compound with a totally different ester. They are not run the same way. EQ does need to be run at minimum 16 wks.
Buildbigger86yeah rusty caught that too. Good looks my friend. Thank you for correcting me plus 1
Buildbigger86o cool, fr and well talk more about it. Also eq is mild but overtime makes great lean hard muscle gains i look to frontload for 2 weeks and then run high doses the rest of the cycle
Yeah, if I go the EQ route instead of deca, I was thinking around 800mg/wk of EQ (front loaded @1600 the first week) and around 600-700mg of test a week. I've ran deca several times and love it but don't care for all the bloat so I'm looking for an alternative. FR sent bro.
Buildbigger861600 a week front loading is kind of high. i mean i have had many friend do it though it though with no problem. i FL 1200MG a week for 2 weeks and then run 900mg a week after that.
I run test eth or cyp with it at like 500mg's-750mg's a week as well.
Yeah i have run deca because of the bloat but i have run NPP 250 which is nandrolone phenyl prop. Fasting acting deca that doesnt give you the water retention and al the other shitty sides. i love it. Plus it is a nice boost to run with the eq test cycle