dbol???
New here with a few questions. Been looking to do my 1st cycle. Been doing alot of research and come with 400 mgs test a week for 12 weeks along with 20 mgs dbol ed for 4 weeks along with proper anti estergon and proper pct. My problem is i have to hide this from my wife so this will make my cycle harder to do. I have read alot about oral only cycles suck and why. My question is has anyone on here done a short cycle of dbol along with good dieting and pct and had any luck? I know that test is really the base of most every cycle, but just asking? Not saying im not gonna go ahead and do the full cycle because thats what i really want to do. Also would dbol taken alone kill your sperm count and does it cause ed. Any help would be grateful. I have been working out for 5 years. Im 30 years old at 5'11" 205lbs with 18% bf. Thanks guys.
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PARAD0XIf you take dbol long enough to get some decent lean mass gains its possible to keep em after cycle. Seen it happen so know its not impossible. Just have to eat right and train hard.
tread-mHate to be late to the party but you need that body fat down before you run dbol anyway. Go test only and bust your ass doing the only thing that matters at the end of the day.......DIET. Come out the other side a better man and run that dbol next time with a 10% bf, it will treat you much better there. Building starts and ends in the kitchen brother, on and off cycle!
Most the people I know who use dbol long or short period have massive water retention and end up looking like the Michelin man. Also it has 17α-methylation witch causes your liver not to break down the compound, and that can be pretty rough on the liver Just my two cents I would kick the dbol for a better oil based product.
Thanks everyone. Think im gonna go with the test 500 mgs a week and bump the dbol up to 40 mgs ed. Its awesome you guys take your time out to help out each other on here. Hopefully I can 1 day. Hrdbdy I actually seen that documentary bigger stronger faster. I may try that with her,lol. Ill just mix in some cheap over the counter crap to throw her off like godeep said.
Anonlol.. just don't actually take it .. you don't really know whats in it.. -)
i agree with most of the guys here...20 mgs of dbol dosent seem enough i would at.least use 40 mg bro,and throw in a little test e like 400-600mg weekly for decent results.,i hope this helps you bro..these guys wont steer you wrong
Eric090585i've done a dbol only cycle before bro..got some gains...couldn't get my dick hard to save my fucking life though... :( and 20mds ED isn't enough IMO..i'd do 40mgs ED.
i lost about 50% of my gains within the first month, which was also depressing. fuuuuck that shit bro. sit your woman down and say "listen woman, this is how it is" and then go from there and add some test to your cycle bro..lataz
Dbol is not known to cause ED issues at the dosages your talking about and the 400mgs/test should be more than enough to help you with it in the rare event.
I do not recommend dbol by itself and have never heard of a lasting positive experience from those that did (more "withdrawal" type scenarios as the 'Noid mentioned below).
I don't tell why wife anything about my cycling either; I just start eating a shitload and taking a bunch of BS over the counter supplements (the GNC crap that doesn't work). She has mentioned that whenever I start to get bigger it seems I get clumsier because that's when I tend to get marks and swollen spots on my glutes, delts and quads. Honestly, she knows but we don't talk about it.
AnonI cant see you hidding dbol use from your wife. She knows you inside out, you will be as oily as a mackerell by day 4. What are you going to say for the inevitable oily face? No to mention the zits and the 1lbs of weight you will gain ed. The sooner you tell her the better, like grrrrrl said best watch the movie with her. Also your dosages are very moderate and you have everything planned i cant see a reason why she would say no.
Love the Mackerel reference Rods, being a fisherman and dbol user I can deferentially relate.( Only I look like a mackerel with chicken pox since dbol breaks me out like mad)
I now use tbol for front loading, and yes most of the dbol gains do fade away after the cycle.
Well to tell you the truth I have read many cycles where people were hard headed and did a d-bol only cycle and yes some of them claimed to get good gains and even months after still had some of them. Is it a good idea NO, but yes you will most likely keep some of your gains, not nearly as much as if you did them together but it would be something. The part that sucks here bro is you'd get good size and then loose most of it, mentally it takes its toll. Goodluck.
I will also say this is what I read, and people who were told not to do something because it wont work might feel inclined to come back and say it did just because.
AnonI agree roid, see that all the time. Just hate to see people waste money and be disappointed with their results
Anon