posted Sat, 12/03/2016 - 11:06
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Much reading here and there, just wondering what or any tips or tricks some of the more experienced users have for keeping the most gain from it. Water water water :(
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Troll.
ah im labeled a troll on an internet review site. The seriousness of that is just eating at me.....
5 cycles and never run a proper PCT
May be give your body a rest and have some bloods taken and also run a nice long PCT as I'm sure that your receptors could do with a refresh and your body / next cycle will benefit....while having this time off then gain some knowledge on compounds and PCT meds as your only 27 and don't want to mess yourself up
The way this will go is a life of TRT and a world of hurt when there is no time to turn the clock back.
Definatley, hcg, clom and nov have been ordered. I dont think its to late.
This needs to go!!!
As one newbie to another, stop. Just stop where you are now. I'm not going to give you a hard time, just some of my opinions based on what you've said so far.
Like me when I first came here (not long ago), you have the wrong assumption and attitude about AAS usage. I believe you see steroids as the miracle "get big" route. This couldn't be farther from the truth.
Stop. Research. Research. Research. And when you've read everything there is to read, research some more. Saying things like you've only every run a 15 day PCT, planning on using two or als at once with no mention of understanding hepatoxicity, asking what a macro is, and several other statements show that you aren't ready.
I say this from the standpoint of a person who was in your shoes not very long ago. Nobody here wants to see you hurt yourself or worse. Research nutrient intake, the different AAS compounds, and anything else you can get your hands on. Please.
Your gear isn't going to go bad. Let it sit on the shelf for awhile. Or give it to a friend you know is more experienced with AAS usage and just write the spent money up to a lesson well learned.
I ask you to stop, listen, learn, and live. I don't want you doing like so many have done in the past and permanently harm your body.
dude, this isnt my first rodeo and if your just gonna assume i jump in blindley with no research fuckoff already. Steroids are just an aid, dedication and hard work is king. Save it
If this isn't your first rodeo, then you have been extremely lucky. 15 day PCT?? Not understanding what macronutrients are?? Can't even spell Dianabol?? The attitude will get you nowhere. I didn't assume anything, btw. By the content of your very replies, you give away the fact you lack the knowledge to safely and properly use any AAS. That was my point. Stop and learn. But, if you are dead set on doing whatever the hell you like, then have at it.
One last term I think you need to research though..." Slave to the needle".
i dont really care about anything your saying. Ive gained the info i was after through other members solid advice.
You don't care about anything I'm saying? You are free to feel that way. But, I think this is the point where you stomp your foot, flare your nostrils, then shout to the world you are taking your ball and going home.
And at the rate you're going, taking both balls home won't be much of a load to carry.
RustyhookerDudes just an assbutt. Soon as you see big negative numbers and troll tag....you lost by trying.
I do believe you are right. It wasn't long ago I came here thinking I knew a thing or two about AAS. I then posted an idea for my next cycle and didn't get the answers I wanted, but then answers that I needed which I'm sure saved me alot of heartache.
I just don't understand these people joining, posting in the forums, and then getting butthurt when they don't get the response they wanted. If a person isn't going to heed the advice of those more experienced, why bother asking and wasting everyone's time? Just seems pointless.
It boils down to blatant arrogance and ignorance.
And then also there's the troll side of things when people are that sad in life they have nothing better to do
Its good to have you around man (no homo) ;)
RustyhookerDude was most likely an old banned member. Got repeat banned for being just as you see here. Comes back because he got no life outside of computer land. Lol
wow you guys caught me
Nail on the head rusty.....claim to not give a fuck about the site but then can't keep away lol.
Makes me laugh everytime pal ;)
getting good info on doing my shit right of course im going to keep asking shit and getting on here, dumb statement
What's dumb is this entire thread!
Instead of doing a bit of reading you expect people to fall over themselves to give you all the info you need/want..and then when you don't agree with what people tell you (because your ignorant) you dish out abuse and shitty childish comments.
Good luck with "getting shit" on here
^this times 1000!! Well said!
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Personally I prefer Tbol. But have ran D bol many times and Drol many times. You may gain water weight but you still grow muscle.
how was your tbol experience? assuming with test ofcourse
RustyhookerHE RAN DBOL ONLY....NO CLUE ON PCT AND TRYING TO START NEW CYCLE
ive never ran dbol only... why are you another assuming dumbass? never said once dbol only stop adding to this post
so it is just a waste to even run dbol is what im gathering? looks like most of you think its all bloat, whats a better oral bulker to run with?
I don't believe d-bol is bad but I would recommend it as a 4 week kick on a long ester test cycle like e or c. But that is not important right what is important is before you put steroids in your body having a true grasp on your food intake and training! You need to know you true protein carb fat and calorie intake before shakes food is key because that is what truly will make you grow. And depending on the person a 2 hour workout is actually over fatiguing your muscles! And what are you goals? Sit down right everything out and comeback and the guys here will help you put together a top notch routine and diet that you can make great gains with and when the time is right steroids can make even better but till you are at that point I wouldn't recommend using them or starting another cycle. Also try and eliminate those shakes from the test results I have seen you don't get anywhere near what they claim and it just makes you deprive your own gains whole true food is king! Hope this helps!
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its my 5th cycle so im not completely new but still can use all the advice available. Ive come to the 2 hours every other day over the past 4 years of seeing how my body reacts week after week. I eat 3_4 balanced meals a day with the shakes between and snacks here n there. Not competing or anything just recreational meathead i guess. Should i structure more food in? Or more protein shakes?
More solid food, more meals per day... shakes are exactly what they're marketed as, a supplement. You're over relying on supplements and hindering your gains while pissing away money.
Skip the bullshit mass gainers and get whey/beef/soy whatever powder with some real ingredients in there, bananas, PB, whole milk, oats etc. search the forums in the dieting section there are quite a few good recipes for them.
mashed potatoes, lean beef, peanut butter, while grain breads and pastas,....the list goes on....
Not trying to be a smart ass here but bulking is about nutrition! ...without a bulking diet all your orals will do is add water, bloat up....then unbloat...no gains and yet you subjected yourself to the side effects and extra stress on your organs....
I see nothing about a nutrition plan here...so with that I suggest some patience, proper foods, and rest, more food and train accordingly....not the answer you wanted to hear I'm sure, but it's the way it is done!
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i eat probley over 5k a day with a 2 hour workout every other day. Metabolism is stupid fast, so if i kill it in the gym daily its hard to put weight on it seems. i make sure im over 200 grams of protein a day or try too with shakes on top of meals
From your stats, your current weight is 260ish, ...200 g of protein a day, including a couple of shakes, seems a bit low for someone your size.....hell im only 195# and I intake 250 g protein a day, anyway,.i would suggest doing some research in the nutrition section on bulking diets, macro breakdowns, ....also, the gentleman down below, Makwa, has some great nutritional information posted in his profile page, well worth a look!..
for sure, it seems i could be growing much faster. I hate this my metabolic rate. More food it is
I would need to get a better idea of what your cal/macro breakdown is first before trying to recommend anything. Additional AAS may not be warranted at this point?
im new to this forum stuff, what do you mean by cal/macro? if you mean how i eat i smash everything in site, 3 mass shakes a day with lean protein before bed.
What is you TDEE? How many calories above you TDEE are you eating? Are you still gaining weight, has weight stalled or has weight gain shifted to more fat than lean body mass gains? Macros....How many grams of protein, carbs, and fat are you eating? How many meals/day are you eating? What app are you using to log your meals and keep track of macros?
Not a fan of those mass shakes. How many carbs are in them and what type of carb (high or low GI)?
If it's one of those powdered mass shakes it's all shit carbs...
Easy to say you get 600g of carbs from shakes if it goes straight to your tits...
Mass gainer shakes do put weight on you but I have never seen it be quality weight. Just screws up your insulin sensitivity and then everything you eat instantly turns to fat.
woooa ok im off the shakes.... whey and 7 meals a day!
Absolutely. Sure the scale goes up, but so does the BF%.
Lol
sry guys, cycle is 25mgs a day for 4 weeks of dbol with tbol ran behind it. test prop at 600mgs a week. just wondering how to keep the majority of the dbal blow up
Two orals back to back is going to stress the piss out of your liver, but no matter what I say you will prob run it anyway, ...
The majority of dbol gains is going to be water so you won't keep it no matter what, ...as far as any other gains u mite get and want to keep, well it's simple, ..eat, lift, sleep, eat.....
The majority of dbol gains is going to be water so you won't keep it no matter what, ...as far as any other gains u mite get and want to keep, well it's simple, ..eat, lift, sleep, eat....
Yep
Dbol then tbol, what are you trying to accomplish running them back to back?
was gonna do them together from day 1, just stop the dbol and continue with the tbol n test, is this a bad idea?
RustyhookerWhats your pct?
only ever did clomed for 15 days after, never done hgc or anything that i probley should have
RustyhookerAt the minimum run your Clomid 30 days. 4weeks. 100...100...50...
50
You're shut down. Take time off chems as well. Time on plus pct is time off. Get bloods prior to start to see if you even recovered.
erase your face picture. Cops dude!
And I see you're ordering more gear. Think before you jump