posted Tue, 01/06/2015 - 15:28
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Cyp vs Prop vs Sus ?
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Guys I know these are all Test and the andr/anabolic
100/100 but are the gains the same? If not which is the more powerful. Which will put more pounds on me? Hope I didn't ask a stupid question.
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AnonShort ester -prop ..while waiting for the long to kick in..id choose enth over cyp over sus IMO.
AnonIf im doing a long cycle i personally prefer sust. The long ester in the sust will take a while to raise levels but youve also got shorter esters kicking in. In a way its like ramping dose up. I have better results from blends of esters.
A good write up here, very interesting point of view.
http://www.isteroids.com/steroid-esters/
Actually no, test is not test. The ester greatly influences the effects of the drug. I been meaning to write something about this. I already have all the medical studies bookmarked . But the longer the ester the more anabolic the test, higher levels is nitrogen retention and muscle gain. As well as more water.
PowpowpowSo that's why I look like a frog on test e...I done prop before look great nice hard look..just jabin everyday 50cc or even eod so long
O irongame, you spoil us. Look forward to this
Interesting. Looking forward to your write up.
I understand the concept of pinning eod but pinning cyp every other day defeats the purpose of running it. If u are goin to do that u might as well use prop or sus
if using prop id pin every day, blood levels drop off too much for my liking after 48hrs. i use enan, not cyp but same difference. ive done 2x/week, ive done every 3 days, ive done eod. eod works best for me, so i dont see a reason to fix whats not broken.
rule of thumb:
-cyp can be shot once a week, 2x is better. (i go EOD personally to cut down on oil volume)
-prop can be shot EOD, ED is better, slightly less water retention, propionate ester can be painful to some, higher chance of PIP
-sustanon, EOD shots (personally never saw the reasoning behind sustanon. looks good on paper, doesnt really make sense in practice. just pick an ester and stick with that one, just my opinion.
Why would u pin cyp eod how much are u using that two shots a week not enough instead of four? Pinning cyp eod defeats the purpose of using cyp.Sustanon is a great compound if u use it right.
many reasons.
when running 2 or 3 injectables at a time each 1cc at average mg/ml 2 shots per week will be a high volume shot and i rather break it up into smaller more frequent injects.
the more often you inject the more stable blood levels will be, only reason not to do this is if you cant handle pinning eod.
-this is all personal preference but i only use pharma grade test as my base, stacked with compounds only available from UG. that being said the only sustanon id feel comfortable using is organ0n and its just too expensive and faked too often when there is much cheaper alternatives for HG test.
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If that what u want to do fine your body but they made long esters so you don't pin eod. I get if your an advanced user that's doin 20 mls a week. how much can u not take in your glute u can easily do four ml at one time in your glute. So if your using two or three compounds that's only three ml .I do that in my quads. So u can't take six mls in two shots a week. Two shots a week of test e or cyp will leave your blood levels plenty stable bc of there long half lives. It defeats the purpose of long esters if u pin it like it's prop but hey your body if that what works then go for it but very unorthodox
Kapsize's method has the exact same end result as pinning long esters 2x a week with the added benefit that if he happens to miss a shot that his blood levels won't vary significantly. Short esters can only be used ED or EOD. Long esters can be used however you wish. The reduced oil volume is a very valid point. It's not an unorthodox method--at all. Sounds like he's done his homework.
im doing 3cc eod. if i was to break it into 2 shots a week thatd be 5.25 cc per shot, thats one big shot imo. and my pins are only 5 cc anyways. eh, to each his own.
I've run all esters and I personally prefer Sust pinned every 3rd day... It provides a little more initial kick then eth/cyp due to the short esters and doesn't have to be pinned EOD like prop...
The only real difference is that the longer the halflife the bigger the carbon chain and thus the ester accounts for more of the weight. So with prop being thr shortest estered it would have more hormone per mg. But there are more things to consider then just hormone ratios and I personally would not make a cycle revolving around it.
Oh and fix your stats on your profile, youbitch
They are a form of test my friend. But the ester attached to the hormone is what changes what half life, water retention etc. As far as what will put more lbs of you will truly come down to your macro schedule for the overall goal.
I've never ran a straight prop cycle.
Now between sus and cyp, I prefer sus.
Shit I forgot to hit the reply.
Thanks madman
Put up your proper stats, you bitch.
Hahaha lol. 6 ft 1 230 lbs 17% bf