posted Thu, 05/29/2014 - 12:52
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OK so today I received my package. Its 300mg Test E/200mg Eq/ml mix. That's 500mg of gear per cc.
This beautiful amber colored juice is floating in 2%BA and 10%BB.
The most I've ever pinned was 200mg/ml.
How many of you have ran gear that is this tight in suspension and could you please share your experiences and suggestions?
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Rustyhookerhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/so....you-got-pip
I dunno why one would use a huge pin. Vikes small pin forum in here as well. Patience is your best friend
Ok full blown PIP. lump and everything. who didn't see this coming?No fever or nuttin. It is what it is. A big ass crystallized ball of gear in my delt. Hot rag helps. At least I thought I was gonna get away with it for a lil while. Im for real gonna have to cut it with somethin.
RustyhookerFill me in quickly. You used a huge needle...why? How many cc to the delt? Hard ball or squishy? Hows pain? Red streaks? Fever? Chills?
That blend at 1 cc should be painless
21 g isn't all that big. Its not like an 18 or nuttin. Its what I use with my patients for IM injections and Its what I use with my HRT. I have 22s, 23s and 25s But 21 just seems to fall in a lot smoother.
My wife gives me most of my shots so we take plenty of time. I can pin myself but I would rather not with her in the next room She has been doin it for me for years.. There was NO PAIN for the first 24 hrs. so I don't think it was technique. I did do shoulders that day so the increased blood flow might have sucked up the solvent too fast?
The lump is hard, not hot. No fever. Its in the lateral (middle) deltoid. By delts are nice and cut up this time of year and you can see that particular head is nice and swole up. But the pain is subsiding.
When I think about pins I think about a hose pipe (21g) pointed at a mound of mud. If ya pour a gallon of water through a hose pipe its gonna trickle out on the mud. If ya squeeze a gallon of water through a straw (25g) its gonna blast the mound of mud to bits. We don't jam it in but we don't sit there for 10 min either. Im not disagreeing with Vikes solutions. The man knows what he is doing and his rep goes well beyond this board. But I got kids in the house and one of them walking in with dad with a needle in his arm would be uncool I gotta get it in and out. Thanks for the link tho. The pipnosis one was funny as hell.
dude, i use 25g now because of scar tissue build up, it doesnt take much longer at all, maybe an extra 15 seconds, it works and helps. i pin high concentrated gear with it fine, alot higher than yours. sounds like bad pinning, your patients? you a dr? you say years? etc etc......... you should know all this.
Patient. Im an RN have been for 15 yrs. I get payed to give shots. And Ive been on HRT for about 7-8 yrs.
I dunno what went wrong with this shot. All I can figure is that its concentrated 150% stronger than what Im used to. Maybe its the solvent or the oil? The source is highly reputable around these parts. I might cut it with my pharm grade gear and give it a go tomorrow.
Ill post an update.
RustyhookerMaster of hrt and pinning many cc's per week is VERY different. There's more than just a few medics here.
Im not saying Im a master of anything. Just explaining Im not just some kid jammin gear in his arm. I started this post before I even dosed it. I sorta anticipated something like this happening due to the concentration of the gear. I thought I might have gotten away with it there at the beginning.
RustyhookerReason i even jumped in is i just hit 1cc of 600Mg eq and 1cc of cyp with no pip at all. Higher Mg doses can pip but it's 90% tge brewers issue. The solvents, BA, and bb. I run mostly high concentration gear with no pip. Theres tricks to help which was posted. Sometimes though it is just pippy gear. Toss of the quarter
Get big bro!
either try pinning less more often, like half a ml at a time and see if it helps or ditch it and buy normal gear that youve used b4, it could be carrier, high concentrated gear with high carriers etc cook your muscle, go to the butcher buy a fresh brown lambs fry, inject 1 ml of this gear you have into the middle of it, cut it open in a few hours and have a look, it will be discoloured and bubbly like aero chocolate, imagine its your muscle, ppl wonder about pip, this is a contributing factor. less is better.
I think Im gonna cut it 1/2 and 1/2 with the 200/1ml test I have. The end result should be 350/ml and give that a shot. Or maybe just 0.5 ml of the 500/ml at a time. And that lamb thing. I'll just take your word on it.
next time try glutes they are more forgiving.
I think Im gonna cut it 1/2 and 1/2 with the 200/1ml test I have. The end result should be 350/ml and give that a shot. Or maybe just 0.5 ml of the 500/ml at a time. And that lamb thing. I'll just take your word on it.
you dont have locks on your doors? 21g is over kill but you can do as you wish!
O.K so I spoke a lil too early... There definitely is some PIP. My arm isn't gonna fall off tho. It might be the same or a tiny bit more than my pharm grade test cyp. I'm happy thus far.
Well the verdict so far is good. 12 hrs later and minimal pip. It doesn't hurt, but I can tell I had an injection there. It was thick and it was slow even with a 1" 21 Ga needle. 1cc left deltoid. So it didn't crash overnight.
Agree with Vike. Tried the high dose, it was like pinning fucking peanut butter, had to use 18 g spikes. Call me old fashioned...LoL , you may end up with some pip.
RustyhookerYou're nuts! Lol! I run everything thru a 25x1. And that includes very high Mg gear. Slin pin any time possible.
I'm with ya my friend, that was inexperiance. I know better now, thats why I try to get people to stay away from the high dose.
18ga is insane! You Sir are a bad ass.
No not bad ass, that in experiance. I know better now. Thats why I say I'm old fashioned, 22-23g at the biggest now adays.
1000mg/ml Equipoise is like pulling and pinning jam....... i have also pinned 1000mg/ml test/tren/EQ which was a little thinner but just like the high MG EQ carried zero PIP which proves a quality brew.
At the end of the day im no big fan of heavy MG/ML gear and prefer old school normal dosed juice any day.
stats and cycle history....
40 y.o. 5'7 , 178lbs ~13% bf My weight ranges from ~170-190lbs. depending on the time of year and if Im on or not. I usually avg around 180lbs.
Been a gym rat my whole life and started Orals at around 26yo
Ive done several oral cycles with compounds like 1-AD, M1T/ M4AD back in the day. I did SD a few times till it disappeared. Recently in the last few yrs Ive ran Epi, Stano, LMG and Methyl drol, (Most of these I have found to be effective but poisonous or just plain garbage)
Ive done several Test/Deca cycles and several "Just Test" cycles over the years. I try to keep it simple and not stack the kitchen sink in my cycles. I adjust doses to my body's response to the gear and try not run too high. I'm not a novice nor an expert. But my goals are not extreme. I just wanna look good for my wife. And I want the other chicks to wish they were her.
Ive been on HRT for about 7- 8 yrs at 200mg test cyp q 10 days.
I have always had an unlimited supply of syringes and needles of all flavors, Filters, and alcohol wipes due to the fact that I am a nurse which is handy as hell.
That's a brief synopsis. I'm sure Ive forgotten something.
I run 500 mg / ml Test Undecanoate but the carrier oil is refined MCT oil. Completely colorless and totally painless. The oil is of medium viscosity.
Highest I've ran was EQ at 400mg/ml and that oil was like molasses. Had to run my syringe under hot water before I changed out needles and injected or it wouldn't push through a 25g
Yeah, I should know all about it in the morning. The ol lady is gonna dose me tonight after supper. We shall see. I just wanted to see if anybody would post somethin like "smooth as silk" "I do it all the time!No PIP at all bro" lol.
If its quality gear you should be ok. Might leave some PIP but shouldn't cripple you. Give it a try and see how it feels. You already bought it.
Im just gonna run the Test and Eq. at 600/400 a week. Simple and sweet. Ive been on HRT for several years at 200 mg q 10 days. and just ramping up the dose for about 20 weeks.
What is your proposed cycle that you are going to be running this with?