+ 2 Coming clean and being honest!
Hello ladies and gents. Haven't been around for a while I took another job and have been busting my ass and smashing it up in the gym so my time has been spoken for. I logged back on last week and low and behold not alot has changed, other then some mods have been added-(congrats Rusty) and I see have taken a kinder gentler approach to some of the stupidy we see day in and day out. So I got to thinking after one post can't remember who penned it but the guy was comepletely honest about what he has done and his intentions, they were a bit off but we were able to straiten him out-what a concept, come here looking for help and receive it! Awesome! So I wanted to stress how important it is for guys to be honest, if you come on here and say you want to run 500 of test but your real intention is to run a gram and 800 mgs of tren how the fuck can we even help you. I've seen it done, guys post a simple rubber stamp cycle, then you look in the cycle logs or on a source page and you see the same douchebag bragging about the results he got from running 3 times the oils and different compounds. I guess my point is two fold, don't waste our fucken time and jesus christ take a safer approach to your body...The other thing is come clean with your doc if your having trouble and we cant help you,,, MAN UP! I am a lucky guy, my endo is very liberal, she's a female, and she's a member on here. I came clean with her and explained what I wanted to do and why, she asked where I got my ideas, knoweledge and info and I explained from reading, researching and asking questions from the more expoerianced guys on here. She looked it up and was so impressed with not only the experiance, but the knowledge that some of our members have about compounds, and there phisiological effects on the human body. She joined, she used to compete so she is well versed as well before joining but none the less she is able to help me with jum,p starts, aggresive pct's bloods, draining when I run EQ, etc etc. So I am honest on here, I get great info and advice. I'm honest with her and she helps keep me safe and everything else... All it took was honesty. At 43 years old I take a different approach to running gear now, I try to run less oil and focus more on food and training. I've done it both ways and an aggressive food plan with a little oil does wonders. Of course its winter, well I live in Florida now so not really but I'm bulking and running more gear then I have since I was a kid. But same deal, she and eroids got the plan, reviewed it, gave me advice as to where I could make some tweaks for better results and BAM, I've jacked on 16 pounds so far, a little around the belly but I'l rip that off before summer comes back around. Not really sure why I wasted 15 minutes writing this I guess I would just like to see a little more honesty... We can only help if you tell us the truth...Merry Christmas.
Z.
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If people could grasp this concept, I think that would go a long way to solving this problem. The problem is too many people, especially youth, want the quick way to "success".
I think we should all try to be helpful, but also be aware of people doing idiotic things and to call them out when you see it. Different approaches work with different people. I hope we all continue to do out best to help others who are asking, even though it can be extremely frustrating at times.
I agree my friend, we're the best for a reason!
Paragraphs mate!
It is a difficult one, I think it comes down to attitude, unfortunately if Kid X wants to run a gram of tren for his first cycle and when the community tries steering him clear he kicks off he's bound to get flamed (this happens often I notice).
You say you run 'less oil now' then go on to say 'running more gear then I have since I was a kid', little confused?
Ha paragraphs, I know I started writing and it went to venting!
As a rule I run less oil year round, I focus hard on food and find I hit my targets with less oils then I have ever run. Right now I'm doing my first bulk in years and am just running what is considered big for me, for others its prob childs play.
JayBallerI just joined Eroids after scoping it out for a couple months.Like many others,I have converted from a membership at a much lesser forum.1 of the primary reason I came here is because the information is far beyond that of everyplace else combined.BUT,what makes Eroids really shine is the quality of character that the members possess.Its the sincere offerings of brotherhood and help that impresses me most.I am truly hopeful to become a part of that.The primary consideration and approach to a cycle seems to be safety first.The mods and the advanced members really step up as leaders to set a high standard of integrity and resposibility.As far as blasting people that post ridiculous cycles goes,I think it always best to explain WHY,and I think this forum does an exceptional job of that.Especially when a 22 year old kid post a cycle with tren and deca.You blast them ,but let them know what your intentions are.You are blasting them to look out for their health and safety.....As far as honesty goes,there is so much that can be personally achieved through using this site,but your never gonna get any where unless your honest with yourself and the people that are trying to help you....I am honest with my doctors.They have to do there thing by advising me to stop,but by being honest it allows them to help me be safe.
I think what we can do is honestly try to convince some people to do the cycles the right way. Some guys posting up on here just can't be helped because their fucking egos direct them, and no matter what you try to do it's like asking a brick wall to move. I still figure we can try. If 10 guys come on here with crazy cycles, and we manage to convince one guy to do it right, that's still a win in my eyes.
I don't spend to much time on folk that lie to themselves. Flame On.
I have yet to meet a doc that I have felt comfotable enough to come clean with. They always come off like I'm a cracked out junky when I tactfully bring it up. I'll dial it in as you have someday. Props!
and... Merry Christmas Z, We just got our tree up
Merry Christmas bro.
This is a difficult problem and I don't know what the solution is.
If someone who is just starting out intends to run 1g of Test 1g of Tren and 1g of EQ and they propose it they will most likely get flamed.
So, then we get a big thread with folk trying to get the OP to be more reasonable and in so many cases he eventually caves under the weight of sound advice and agrees to do something more reasonable.
At least that's what he says on the initial post.
Then a month later, we get a status report on how he is doing on his 1g of Test 1g of Tren and 1g of EQ!
So, what are our options?
Don't flame the guy?
Don't even bother with long responses to overkill cycles cause they are gonna do it anyway?
Respond only to cycles where the OP seems to be reasonable from the beginning?
I have never figured out what the approach should be with this and for me and I'm sure some others it is a source of enormous frustration. I genuinely try to help people and I find it hard not to get emotionally invested with some OP who is on the road to rotting out his internal organs.
But, in the end, I dunno.
Agreed!