+ 1 Bulking season is just around the corner.
Looking to start a bulk 2nd week of Sept and want to place an order but I want some input BEFORE I just buy a bunch of oil---Makes sense right? Sometimes I wonder..
Age 42
Height 5'7"
weight194
BF 9% (calipered by my doc)
Last cycle:
Test C-@500mg week 10 weeks
Var- 100mg 5-9 (wasnt impressed)
PCT went well-just got bloods again all within normal range
Got bloods on cycle week3 and week 7
Had Adex on hand didnt need it per bloods.
My endo rocks!
Proposed Bulk for week 2 sept
week 1-16 Test E 400mg
week 1-14 EQ 800mg
week 1-4test prop 125 eod
Have Adex on hand- Bloods just before- than every 3 weeks, last draw 1 week after pct
Blood donation week 9 if needed- Again my endo rocks and she will take care of it on the third draw if needed.
Std PCT Pharma grade!
Clomid, 100,100,50,50
Nolva 40,40,20,20
Goal here is bulk- I have a nice physique right now but, I want to add some mass to this frame over the winter. (saying I have a nice physique sounds gay doesnt it?)
I train 6 days a week, I will be cutting my cardio to 4 days a week and keep up the heavy weight throughout.
I eat just under4000 cals a day now with most being protien-that will go 5000-6000 yeah its a shitload of meat,chix and fish. I will up my macros to a 50,40 10 protien,carbs,fats.
If I missed anything here I'm sure you will let me know.
Thanks, I appreciate the time you guys put into helping me to achieve my goals.
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Thanks for the help guys. I will post a cycle log when it starts with all the good details and see if anyone can learn anything from it. Mainly for all the 155 lb ultra high dose kids who come here thinking they need to run 2 grams a week to get gains...Food Food Food...
I really respect the fact that your still aiming for lower mg even though you have completed 15 cycles. Your cycle below will be a great bulk. I have been thinking a lot recently what to run next and my head was all over the place. Then I thought what has been my best ever run, test/eq. Always a winner.
Isn't all tamoxifen and clomid pharma grade apart from a few ugl's own, what is the most popular tamoxifen and clomid pharma grade brands can i ask?
I won't give the brands its against the rules but no... Not all pct is pharma and a lot of new guys get fucked up with shit pct products. I'm fortunate in the fact that I access to the good stuff. I don't like to take chances with the recovery aspect.
If you're trying to add a reasonable amount of mass I'd be inclined to run a higher dose of test than detailed. I'd be thinking 600mg test.
Low test high EQ is a nice run but it's not going to put a huge amount of size on you.
Hey Catalyst- thanks for the reply. So, I know I can add 10lbs in 18 weeks just with diet-My hopes are another 10lbs on top, I thinkl this is a reasonable/conservative goal for the cycle-so 20 lbs total, if you think I need to add 200 mg a week I can do that, I sort of take a different approach now that I'm a bit older which is to keep the gear somewhat low but enough to hit what I'm looking for. This is why I posted here for you guys to pick it apart and give me some pointers. An extra bottle of E is nothing compared to what my food bill is on cycle so again it's not an issue.
So at this point I'm at
weeks 1-4 Test Prop 125 eod
wekks 1-16 Eq 800 mg week split (e4d
weeks 1-18 Test E 600 mg week split e4d
Again, I appreciate the time
I'm the same mate, less gear more nutrition. Personally I'd run the 600mg considering your goals, but I like your way of thinking on the low doses. I like EQ runs, one of my favourites. If I run low test high EQ I gain a few lbs but add vascularity / condition / hardness more than anything. Higher test, I pack on a bit of mass.
Food bill on EQ - ouch! I literally eat constantly on EQ runs! I finish a meal and I'm hungry 30 mins later.
Is this your second cycle?
No. Second this year- I have run many cycles in the past without regard for my health. Took a year off, hit it hard in the gym ran the last test and var .
Looks like a good plan, the only thing I would change is to run the Test 18 weeks and the EQ 16.
That was my original plan. The Eq 16 weeks with a prop taper at the end 17-18 it's a long run!
It is, but you need that time to reap the benefits that EQ has to offer. Which leads to a more difficult recovery (especially for those of us who are "older"). You need to take that into full consideration. If that's a significant worry, you may want to venture down another cycle path.
Thanks vhman- It is a concern, I'd be a fool if it wasn't. I love EQ and how fluid it is with working toward goals. I can literally eat the food intake of 3 large men when I run it. My endo is awsome and helps put some of that concern at ease. I have run EQ in the past and the 2-1 ratio with test is magic for me.I don't want to take a bunch of your time but what would you recomend? This is why I posted here, if there is a better I'll find it here.
Excellent. Glad to see you have your basis covered. I gave you a +1 for posting up and thinking things trough.
We all have different goals and there are many ways to reach them. I am TRT, but I really don't ever "blast". I just don't like how I react to higher mg, over a longer period of time. My "blasts" would be considered high trt doses, but that's what works for me and my goals.
As for a recommendation, it sounds like you're fully aware of the parameters of this EQ cycle and I don't think it's excessive, so I think you would be fine with it. Just keep a sharp eye on your BP (especially) and your rbc's as time goes on.
Thanks man...
You stated your kicking off with prop weeks 1-4. Those last 2 weeks (17-18) is a good opportunity to throw on another 2-5 lbs, take advantage of it.
Yeah, I'm not impressed with the orals lately-although the drol kicking around is pretty good I just don't want any BP issue's with the EQ I'd rather kick with oil and either taper or just run another 2 weeks of E @ 400MG. thanks for the advice...
Make sure you donate some blood while on this cycle brother. Every 60 days, so you can get 2-3 donations in there
I have a very liberal endocrinologist. I am very honest with her and she does all my blood work on and off cycle,PCT,Donations,etc etc. Her thought is she would rather help me do it right then try and fix me after. Thats where I get the Pharma Clomid and Nolva. She's the fucken bomb, I run bloods every 3 weeks on cycle and if I need to donate she pulls it!
Good man +1 Glad to see you got your shit together. I see you doing well on that cycle, just keep constant. Good luck