posted Sun, 07/29/2012 - 18:53
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Anavar VS wins tell
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Ive ran winstrol for a bit and started gettin cuts I never thought I would see I wanted to do it again but a friend told me about anavar how it's better than winstrol by cutting fat and good because you can add some size with var for somewhat of a beginner does anybody have and suggestions I'm 24 about 180 not sure bf but pretty leaned out
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Learn to eat.
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I like them both. When I took Winny it made me strong as a F'n bull. I got better effects from it than I did with dbol except without the bloat (felt like it anyway). I got lucky to catch the DP sale and got 10,000 mg of Var for $180 bucks. I'm going to try running 100 mgs/ed and see how it compares with the 60 I ran. As much as I liked the Winny, I loved the Var more. Plus it doesn't have the side effects.
The BEST combination to cut fat is diet and cardio bro...
No oral only cycles. Hard in every way.
The best results are if you combine winny with var.To take 50mr or 100mg var per day is not the best option bz is not safe dose and is too expensive .you are going to eat 210 pills per month only for var you want 250bucks/monthly.try to take 10mg of winny per day {low dose ]and 30mg of var per day.for test put 2 times per weel 50mg*2times .and is ok.if you want six-pack dont base to the doses or on the drugs base on the training and diet,u must be focus on the muscle.train hard and eat right .try to skip the carbon{pasta ,rice +bread} bz they keep water on the muscle and you dont want this bz you take steroids{steroids even woman doses they keep water in the muscles}.That i believe.And dont skip the cardio!!!
Running combo 17aa's is very harsh.
winny - terrible for HDL and total cholesterol and your liver. it will scalp your head if you have MPB gene, even if you don't it can cause hair loss. bad for your tendons, makes them weaker. this is a competition level drug pre contest with very low body fat.
var is far better, just more expensive.
I disagree about the hair part. Ive run winny a couple time and didn't lose a hair and im prone to mpb. Everyone is different though, some it gets some it doesn't. It's trial and error
AnonI agree. In my opinion (which is made up of research/experience) var is better than winny, not superior in terms of results, but better. Var will tank your HDL as well. Winny also can be rough on the joints (feels like glass). Var is also said to help build tendons, which is amazing.
I wish I had the money to run var with every cycle (in the future).
zewiI like var but then again i like winny too. You have already done winny so do some var see which your body has a better effect too. Also make sure you liver supplements are good to go.. and you diet.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/things-to-remembe....
Yeah I think ima give it a shot see what happens and yeah I'm good I'm liver supps and I don't drink even tho I work for a beer company and diet it no problem I used to weight 260 dieted and worked out without help and dropped to about 195 than ran that win and got to 180ish
Ive. Even lookin at power pharma liquids and very interested in the var since I already ran the win would like to give the var a try at around 50 to 75 mg a day is a pct needed with var or is it just suggested that you take one
AnonYou need to run test with var. Var will supress (and eventually shutdown) your test production. When you come off a var only cycle (without maintenece test) your gains will begin to fade because you now have the test levels of a little kid.
So my advise to you is to copy my cycle (and im loving it btw) http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/2nd-cycle-test-e-var
Var is good at 50-100mg ed. You gotta dial in your dose.
So I definitely need test thanks for letting me know I read some people take test with it and without so I wasnt quite sure if I had to or not and I've never ran test before or any other steroid besides win I've used pro hormones back in the day which are absolute garbage I've just never ran anything because I'm not sure how my body will react to it because I gai. Weight easily and not good weight so I just wanna end up lookin sloppy so this will. E my first experience with both var and both
AnonThose people who run var only without test get lame results, they never unleash vars potential because they're too afraid to pin test. They usually lose quite a bit of their gains once they stop the var and go into PCT because once that var is gone they're sitting there with low test levels trying to bring them up to normal with their pct, meanwhile their body is no longer anabolic and that muscle just starts fading. Test e or c is best for beginners because you dont have to pin every day or every other day. I pin twice a week (mon/thur) you'll get used to it. I recommend 25ga 1.5in needles as they are painless but may take alittle longer to squeeze the juice out (takes me 30-45sec to pin 1ml of fluid with 25ga). Also dont slack on buying an anti-estrogen. This is your first cycle so your about to find out if your prone to gyno or balding. Nolva will prevent bitch tits but it wont lower your estrogen levels. Aromasin is in my opinion the best anti-e (no estro rebound, doesnt hurt cholesterol..etc). Also know that var will not convert to estrogen like test does, so you very well may be able to run this cycle without taking Aromasin daily. But either way if shit does hit the fan (and this is 1st cycle so your about to find out) Aromasin will save your ass.
Start your var at 50mg ed for 2 weeks. It takes like 2 weeks before you start feeling the awesome pumps. Then up your dose to 75mg and run that for another 2 weeks. At this point you'll be 4 weeks into var, if you like the 75mg dose stay with it, if you want to try 100mg then run 100mg for 2 weeks and evaluate your results. I wouldnt go over 100mg ed since 100mg is already pushing it. Also I split my var dose into 2. Im taking 100mg ed right now so Ill do 40mg when I wake and 60mg an hour before my workout. Var has a 8 hour half-life so split it up for optimal blood levels.
You'll need liver support. I take milk thistle pills (400mg ea) 3 times a day.
And drink looots of water, I drink 1.5-2.5 gal a day, but 1 gal is fine.
If you want to cut up and rock the six pack make sure you dont slack on your cardio. I do cardio 3-5x a week for 30-45min post workout. If you aint got a 6 pack after this cycle, you wont ever have a 6 pack (or you're too overweight to use aas).
And I shoudlnt even have to remind you but eat clean!
Goodluck bro, have fun!
zewitest is the base for all cycles don't let anyone tell you different. Even if it's a low dose.
AnonHigh dose anavar is no joke. Gains are kept easily, strength goes through the roof.
stay with tha winny bro, also with tha winny make sure u do the prop pct.. nova 40.40.20.20 clomid 100.100.50.50.. try stacking with test prop.. u might be real happy