-1 Am I getting ripped off?
Hey there,
I'm relatively new the the anabolic game, started around october of 2013 running a cycle of test p, and masternon, supplied by a local source.
I noticed modest strength gains, increased appetite, sex drive. some fat loss, nothing substantial.
after the cycle, I went to test p, and tren A. again notices very similar effects.
all vials i receive through said source are 10mL, 100mg, suspended in grapeseed oil. fairly priced at 55 for test p, 65 for masternon and tren a.
i started to get suspicious when a buddy of mine got deca 200mg/10mL, and sust 250mg10mL at the same time i got the prop and tren, which are both 100mg/10mL.
we compared the vials and noticed they were all the same color, viscosity, general appearance.
it seems to me that such a high range in mg per mL would result in a different viscosity.
again i'm new to all this, but he was pretty concerned.
I don't necessarily think im being completely cheated, but my theory is he has one product, selling it as multiple other substances.
also i figured gains would be more substantial than experienced.
i was running 1/2cc test p, 1/2cc masternon every two days for two weeks. then went to 1cc of each every three days for two weeks, then back to half and half. going on the recommendation of a friend. then the same with the prop and tren a, except i extended the 1cc of each by two more weeks.
anyway, any information/ opinions would be helpful. i just dont want to 1.keep buying the same thing and getting cheated. or 2.keep administering shots of plain grapeseed oil into my body.lol.
havent tried any online sources due to skepticism. but id be willing to try something else, for all i know my gains and increases have all been psychosomatic. another reason i worry is while i feel like ive been modest with tapering on and off, ive experienced zero side effects whatsoever.
thanks again!
cheers!
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so besides the obvious verdict that i shouldnt use AAS. Which at this point i agree with.
other people are buying from my mentioned source. does it sound fake or not?
wow I guess I should read your stats. I usually do that before I give any advice I just read your question. Everybody is telling you the same thing. So you got your answer don't worry about whether the real or not. You're young enough where you can get a great base 6 foot 1 I wish I was 6 foot one. good luck to you and now you know you need to be a little older and my god don't ever put rent in your body and tell you've gone through some things because it is crazy.especially if you're not even sure what you're getting.
In my opinion your too young to me messing around with your body's hormone by injecting un-natural oil. I was over 30 when I started and tht too only coz I was on a drug (relaxant) to keep my migraines away and tht drug fucked up my test. I had to improvise.
your natural test should be good enough to do some serious damage in gym.
when I started working out I never even thought of juice. Only and only when I was on medication for like 3-4 months and saw what it did (good and bad) tht I made a decision.
i appreciate the advice. and won't be using it anymore
The only reason I said it coz I've never read or heard from anyone tht cycling at tht age is good, not even once else I'd share tht perspective as well. Ive always read tht you've gotta least be over 30. Does it bother me tht im pinning, sure it does but at the moment I have no choice.
i understand, and appreciate it, like i said i came here for information, not to be ridiculed and insulted.
so thank you for not being an abrasive ass.
You're more than welcome
Just get a solid diet in place; hit heavy weights or you will never grow; and cut out a lot of that cardio. You won't need gear right away and you will put your friends to shame when they keep pin cushioning themselves and you continue to grow while they do nothing but watch.
alright thank you,
as far as cutting out the cardio, what about the cutting aspect? can i rely on lifting heavy weight to expel enough calories to take care of the excess fat?
also, just for the other peoples sake, does it sound to you like what i have been given is fake?
expelling fat will take diet and a good weight lifting regimen. Heavy weights will help build the muscle and the diet will help lose the fat.
thanks man, any specific diet plan you recommend?
thanks man, any specific diet plan you recommend?
So you started a cycle in October; then started another cycle immediately following the previous one in October? You are 22 years old and CLEARLY have NO IDEA what CYCLE means. PCT PCT then throw out the gear. FKN Tren and mast and everything else What a FKN train wreck
no sir, started second cycle mid january
Doesn't matter sir you still have no idea what a cycle is so my suggestion is to just get off and fix your diet. Too young for gear, and have no idea what to run or how to run it.
i appreciate the opinion. and ill most likely do just that.
also, i posted on here for advice, not criticism.
i understand i don't know much about this.
but i hardly think insulting and chastising me could do any good.
have trusted a friend for info so far.
and if its something i absolutely shouldn't do. thats fine,
but id like some information about it.
thanks
Since you in most everybody's opinion are too young to be doing this you will have a hard time getting help with that horrible cycle. I can almost bet you are still on it as well. Good luck to you and take my advice; you will be better off.
there are great sources here that have all good reviews on them pick one and use them and you'll know for sure that's my advice.also if you were used in any form a tren.. you really would get the side effects of tren... ,again though the top source here that's my advice
Stats
Age: 22
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 227
BF: 20%
I really hope they were fake............
You should not be using gear.
Read this will answer your questions:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/you-guys-i-need-some-he...
not necessarily following you.
I was told by a trainer doing a "pinch test" without calipers that i had about 20% BF, so i don't know how accurate that is. i do know id like to cut fat, which i have enough of to have no visible veins, large love handles, and almost no definition. as well as build lean muscle.
i read that thread you posted a link to, and it sounds like his body either rejected it, or (from what I've been told) was administering too high of doses too often. this is all purely observational assumptions. so please don't take it like i'm acting like i know what im talking about, i don't, i just know what i've been told.
although it was an informative and startling read, that thread didn't really address any of the issues i posted about.
any way you could elaborate on your comment?
thanks
ok I will elaborate.
1) You are too young to be using AAS. You are at your peak natural gaining potential.
2) Having 20% BF shows you have not been training and/or dieting properly. Probably both.
3) No his body did no reject it. When you take AAS you SHUT DOWN natural production. As you have no mention of AI or PCT or prolactin control I fear if you had good gear you would be in his same shoes.
If you are truly serious about this life style how about you dedicate the next 5 years to learning to diet and train properly. Make some natty gains. At your age you should be able to burn that fat off easily, baring you don't have underlying issues. And if you have underlying issues, such as hypothyroidism for example, that's even more of a reason not to use gear.
i appreciate it, seriously doubt i have any kind of thyroid disorders.
At 22 try diet and exercise.
i exercise 6 times a week, 30-90 minutes a day, cardio, calisthenics, not big on heavy lifting. mostly body weight exercises. as far as diet i dont eat fast, fried, processed, or microwaveable foods. but don't have any specific diet plan due to ignorance in that department.
AND you want to use AAS????
OK I give up. I am about to leave to go out tonight and if I continue anymore I am going to be in such a bad mood I probably will end up punching the first teenager I see that looks like he might be juicing........
well have fun, sorry to ruin your night, just trying to get some information.