posted Tue, 12/27/2011 - 18:51
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sup guys.
i just have a quick question. can i stop taking tbol and go with dbol instead?? tday is my 2 second on tbol. thanx
by the way, my cycle consist in:
TEST prop and tbol.
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LOL, ight guys, so i guess i have to sell my tren ace. i have 3 vials
and my goals for my next cycle are: Bulking, and then i want to do some cutting at the end. and idk which test is the best for my next cycle?? test prop? or test e? or can i do a kick start with prop along with test? then, running test e all the way thru my cycle?
tread-mEither way G...if you don't want the ed or eod pinning the whole run the test e @ 500 split with 3 weeks eod 100 prop to kick it and then run var at 80 ed for the final 4 weeks of the cycle. I think you said you are on cycle 3 now? If so you could do a prop bleed or taper at the end to take it to pct....not being that far into running cycles I might have you just lean bulk the whole next cycle rather than trying to do both as of now. On a lean bulk I might run a test/deca run @ 600/300 and just eat to bulk a little more for 8 weeks and then eat to cut a little more in the final 4. That can also be done with a prop kick and taper for better results. On that one you would drop the deca week 10 and run out the 2 weeks of cycle and taper to pct. The other direction trying to bulk/cut is difficult and it can be done again with tbol on 5 weeks and test on 12 with a 4 week close with var at 80 ed. Several ways to go given what you have already ran and you just have to decide which suits you best. Again, I like the test/deca run 1-12 test, 1-10 deca , prop kick and taper for your current level....just let the diet control the goal the whole way. Its not a shred run but with proper close on diet it would surprise you. Are you wanting to cut up like an over cooked roast or just define after a clean bulk run?
i just want to define after a clean bulk. and i will take the 600/300, test/deca that u said, for my next cycle.
tread-mThats a nice run gucci...as grrrl said , diet brother. Diet is the goal, it is the hardest part so to master it is to master everything with any building goal. If you have not gone run over to jaycutler.com and click blueprints. Look at his diet during the bulk and then look again during the cut and shred come august and septmber. Thats where the magic begins and ends right there my brother. Go big on cardio in the bulk phase to increase hunger and slow it down a bit in the cut to decrease hunger. Most do that the opposite and if you want to argue it I'm sure Cutman would listen....NOT! Lol. Let us know how you come out ...
Anondiet will do that for you..
sgtstedankoMy advice... Do THIS CYCLE properly 1st. Don't ever get too far ahead of yourself. Plenty of time, brother. Continue researching, reading, & then asking questions. All the answers to just about any & all questions are out there waiting for you to find whichever ones suit your needs at the time. How old are you : )
thanx bro. im 25
tread-mThats good solid thinking brother, clearer head than mine. Hell, I have my cycles planned through spring of 2026. Had to stop planning to do some cleaning around the house, the people from hoarders are coming out for an interview!
sgtstedankoI've always got two or so go to's to. For me. I find the more planning I do, the more complicated the cycle gets, more obscure compounds, (1testC) etc, etc, etc. Gets away from my fav mantra K.I.S.S. : ) LOL! Those (people) are actually my people, in disguise, scheming to get some of your gear for my next cycle/s
thanx guys.. just wanted to know if I could switch from one steroid to another, but i think im not ready to do that right now. This is my second cycle, and i think i will leave the dbol for later on, and yea my goal is bulking.
Also, i already have some juice in my self. i have:
dbol.
winni
test e
tren ace.
can i use all those compounds for my next cycle? just want some advice from you guys
AnonHoly Sh** NOOOO.. in fact your next cycle should be just as simple and uncomplicated as this one is... never never never run two brand new compounds at the same time.. winny is better left to the professionals unless you are competing or are a professional athlete when you consider the side effect they are a huge price to pay for the results. Tren ... should be left for cycles when you have had the chance to cycle for several years and need the addition of a compound that your body has not been able to adapt to ... quite frankly, done properly over a lifetime, the only compounds that one could consider necessary beyond test, and test prop, are deca, dbols and maybe some anavar to switch things up a bit and kick start cycles. The fancier you get when you start out the more issues you create for yourself later on in the game and the trouble you will have getting significant results with the same amounts of gear. Truth be told, diet, training and rest will take you farther with longer lasting gains then any of the above compounds... maybe they are not the fast way but they are healthier and last longer.
tread-mYou can say shit dear, we're ok with it. Even Sarge can handle after being around me for a while...no homo
tread-mFuck no! Slow down brother and sell that Tren, ace or not, thats down the road. The others are fine depending on goal. If you want to cut next time simply open with prop kick on a test run with tbol starter and var finsih or bring in the winnie. You simply change diet on the next one vs this one. Seriously though, for your sake, get rid of the tren...
Nasty81NateNot knowing whether you can use winni or tren in your next cycle or not is a sure sign that you don't need to even think about using them until you've done plenty more research on the proper ways to run those compounds. They're both in a advanced AAS user category IMO, and shouldn't be done until you know when and how to use them.
tread-mBOOM...
sgtstedankoX2! DB!!! : ) Personaly, I've never run tren. You need to sell that shit Gucci; as you won't need it for quite a while brother...
Nasty81NateMy local dude sold me Tren E with my first cycle, so glad I was smart enough to do 2 months of research before ever sticking my first pin. Still got the Tren, I think I keep it cause its kinda sentimental to me. Not doing it was my first smart move in my AAS career.
sgtstedankoNo shit, tren w/1st cycle : ( Glad to see you're a smart man nate... Good thing it's not the old days, when the only research you could do was (bro scientology ; (
Anoni'd second tread's opinion.. the tbol isn't going to give you some of the sides that you will get from Dbol. In my opinion you can get just as good results from Tbol that you can from dbol without the water retention or risk of gyno.. just my two cents ;-)
sgtstedankoX2, or 3. God these guys & gals are smart. Thank the good dude upstairs we don't have to pay for advice : )
tread-mHow many cycles have you ran? You can switch but your cycle experience and how prone you are to gyno could be an issue. I always like to see a new user have enough cycle experience to know their predisposition to gyno before hopping on dbol. Personally I think your are in the right place with tbol not even knowing your goals since tbol is going to be a much higher quality cycle just eating properly to goal whether bulking or cutting. Have to assume bulking talking dbol.
Nasty81NateYou got the dbol on hand? And do you mean 2nd day or 2nd week?
LOL sorry, sencond week. and yea i have the dbol with me.
Nasty81NateJust follow the above advice. U won't notice gains off t-Bol til week 3 or 4 anyways, but those gains will be easier to keep than some blown-up dbol gains. Just send me the dbol so ur not tempted anymore.
Lol i know i have too much gear that idk what to do with it. thanx again bro.