+ 3 ABOUT TREN... LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE ON THESE BOARDS!!!
I'm going to make this post first because I'm mostly ashamed of myself and secondly because I want people out there to realize that when you have virtually every experienced AAS user saying to use caution regarding a particular compound (such as tren), understand that #1, its for a damn good reason and #2, you aren't special; you aren't gonna "slip through the cracks" and get away with anything. This board and the people on it are here to help you reach your goals while minimizing any compromise to your health, they have no ulterior motives- LISTEN TO THEM.
so, I did my my first cycle. ill skip the details (you can check my profile if you wanna see the whole "story") but basically i trained as a natty, got big and strong as a fucking ox, but had to stop for several years due to me entering professional graduate school. so muscle memory played a big role in me going from 200ish to 245 fairly lean in roughly 8 weeks on 600mg test cyp and 50mg dbol pre workout. Additionally my lifts skyrocketed, easily put 500lbs on my raw total (had i gone the whole 12 weeks...who the hell knows). I also planned on doing a prop taper transitioning into PCT and in my research leading up to my first cycle, looked up other compounds such as this "magical" tren, to see what they were about, how to use them etc.
so i chose to end the cycle early because things were beginning to become very noticeable to everyone and as a graduate student, I didn't want my career jeopardized by having someone insist i give them a blood sample (not sure how realistic that concern was but w/e) and get busted.
heres the important/stupid/retard/im a fucking idiot part
friend of mine knew where i got my stuff, wanted some tren base, caber and a few other things. i said ok what the hell ill place an order with ya and so we did a combined order. as soon as he mentioned the words "tren base" 2 weeks or so before ordering, i knew I was gonna take just one vial and run it for 1 week to see what it was all about. he even had 2 caber tabs left so i was able to run 0.25mg E3D for 2 weeks before we got the base.
MORON. IM A FUCKING MORON FOR DOING THIS. HAD I ASKED ANYONE ON THIS SITE IF IT WAS A GOOD IDEA THEY WOULD HAVE SAID NO AND I KNEW IT. BUT I THOUGHT I WAS SPECIAL AND FIGURED FUCK IT, ITS JUST A WEEK, LEMME SEE WHAT THIS STUFF'S ALL ABOUT BEFORE I STOP COMPLETELY.
I knew what to expect as far as sides; the aggression, night sweats, change in mood, possible kidney toxicity, tren cough, elevated prolactin, need for 2 shots/day because it was base, elevated BP, etc. I was aware of all of them; i did not ACCEPT that i might experience nearly all of them. i was also a fucking moron with the dosages.
50mg 2x/day for 6 days before i called it quits. thats right, 100mg a day (which I knew was ALOT but like I said, i thought I was special). first 2 days sides were okay, felt like a i had a bit of a cold coming on (thats what I thought it was in all honestly) but they weren't debilitating, I was still able to goto the gym.
Well once day 3 came along and my head felt like it got hit with a baseball bat, I began suspecting the tren might be the culprit. it was so bad i couldn't goto the gym from day 3-6 (when i stopped). but by this time, I was starting to see results- fullness, vascularity, chest and delts had a "pop" to them I never noticed before, traps and upper back began separating, even saw some slight vascularity in my lower abs. and this was after 6 days of use, 4 days of which i DID NOT EVEN GOTO THE GYM AT ALL DUE TO THE SEVERITY OF THE SIDES.
-sleep....ha.
-couldn't look at anything bright because the elevated BP and migraine hurt my eyes so much
-constantly ran a 99.5-100.5 temp
-AGONIZING migraines
-bruxism.. never heard of that one
-couldn't concentrate
-no tren cough or aggression increase though but i just wanted to be left alone due to how miserable i felt.
-constant feeling of acid reflux
i stuck with it those 6 days because even without going to the gym, my body changed before my eyes in ways i simply never dreamed of looking (or rather was on the way of looking).
and I'm telling you, having gone through this whole ordeal, seeing the power of this compound (both positives and negatives, and i can't say it enough, to see those effects on my physique WITHOUT going to the gym was incredible).....this compound is to be respected, approached with caution, and researched very thoroughly before you even think of using it. and then consider it again.
you aren't special, I'm not special. this drug is regarded the way it is for a reason. and even though I thought I had done enough research about it (while at the same time being a fucking moron with my dosages..), it still kicked my ass.
its been 2 days since i stopped and everything feels pretty much back to normal (thank god). BP is normal, no migraines, etc.
im not saying don't use tren, I stuck with it for 4 miserable fucking days because of the changes i saw in my physique. I'm just saying exactly what the title of this thread says, LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE, REALIZE THAT YOU ARE NOT AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE, AND TREAT THIS COMPOUND WITH RESPECT.
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Get some experience under your belt with some of the other compounds. There is a whole world of it there that can get you to your goals. I do agree with gear head. But At 43 I've run a lot. Screwed up a couple times and have learned. I have learned on this site as well through others experience. I run tren. Very low dosing. I keep my attitude in check. And diet tight. And I take all precautions. I don't advise tren on hear at all simply brcause there are to many adverse reactions. Good luck bro.
Great post dude!
I'm with GearHead on this. I think you showed yourself exactly what not to do. I've run both A and E a few times but I've never considered running no ester.
Bro, I think you are being a bit hard on yourself. Most people that introduce Tren into a cycle don't jump in and pin Tren base. LMAO It's wise to use Tren A so you don't get the full dose of the drug in a few hours but slowly over a couple of days. Many will find Tren E to be the most tolerable but an Enanthate ester is going to keep the drug in your system for a few weeks so if you are "allergic" to Tren it will be miserable. With Tren A it will be out in 3-4 days. There is nothing wrong with Trenbolone bro. It's not something you need early on in your cycle career but there isn't something poisonous or deadly about it. We have at eroids an irrational negative view of the stuff that I would like to begin to change. But starting a compound you haven't used before without an ester attached is not the way to do it as you found out. I hope you come back to it when you are ready. Feel free to PM me if you want. Send me a FR.
Do take a look at this:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/driving-people-away
Good post. Hopefully people will listen to you and not think "I'm special I can handle it" with that yolo attitude. I will just stick to a simple test only cycle that with proper diet and training routine will help me acheive all my goals. There is no miracle drug that will do the work for you.
Nice post...one 20mg TA pellet back in '94 was enough for me. Never again...