posted Wed, 01/23/2013 - 12:24
1084
1st test cycle
ad
I'm looking into running my first full fledged test cycle but am very concerned about gyno (I already have developed some fm a past tren cycle). I'm currently 6'3 215lbs at 17% BF. I had a friend put together the following 15 week cycle: 250mg test e/wk, 150mg tren ace/wk, 500 iu hcg, 2.5mgs letro EOD, Nolvadex ED. PCT is aromasin for 30 days. Wondering if A) I will still see descent gains w the low doses B) there's anything else I can do to safeguard against gyno getting any worse.
- Bookmark
- 0
- 0
Wow back to the drawing board!
AnonHave all your cycles only included aromasin for pct?
AnonOh god, please dont do this...
This looks horrible bro.
How many cycles have you ran?
How 'bout no? You're friend doesn't know what he's doing. Click on all the tabs at the top of the page and read all the stickies.
Lol not trying to sound rude ,but the cycle without history behind you will prob turn you TRT with how your running your pct and you need caber on hand for tren as it's 19nor. You need milk thistle,liver aid or liv52. Pct for that should at least have novla,clomid,Ai and that caber has to be on hand brother. You should read up on 19nor's and the prolactin aspects of it and how it can shut your nat test down. Plus you dint say for how long your going to run the HCG for because he can help you ,but if you run it at the wrong time it can hurt you more than help you when you try to restart yourself back up. Also letro eod hwy not just run and Ai like adex or armo like your spose to and use letro just incase a flare up. Because if you lower your estro lv to much that can hurt you also. Make your bones and tendons if im right weak. Like i've been told Tren is the last cycle you should ever try and do inless your TRT or been in the game for 3-5 years. If I were you i'd go with a simple cycle like Test cyp or Test E and test prop to kick and taper. Then Ai EOD aex or armo and proper PCT like clomid,novla,armo or adex. Keep it simple brother. Thats my 2 cents since there is no age and cycle history here
Hey brother, glad you posted this. You need to back away slowly from this cycle and do a little more research regarding tren usage.
also regarding your pct. Give these posts a gander. There's a beginners group that you should check out that will help you design your next couple cycles, you definitely want to be safe and tren is a harsh compound not to be used lightly or without experience.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/announcing-gc...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/ai-as-needed-...
one of the issues with tren is that the it causes gyno due to elevated prolactin not estro, which means taking an AI like aromasin or adex will not help you.
http://www.eroids.com/og/beginner-cycles
I appreciate it. That helps a lot, last question. With aromasin being a type 1 inhibitor and Nolvadex being a SERM would it be more beneficial to run them simultaneously?
Once you go through the links I posted earlier, you'll have all your PCT answers.
Cycle history bro
IMO I would lower body fat before startingg this cycle.
Why would you run letro at 2.5mg Bro thats insane????
I've run tren solo off & on for the past 3 years. Had good results and virtually no side effects dosing at 300/mg per week.
In regards to the letro, I know that your body needs some estrogen to build muscle which is why I was concerned.
Check out the links that alloneword posted and they will lead you on your way to a good cycle set up to include a proper on cycle AI as well as a good PCT.