posted Wed, 06/19/2019 - 11:44
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Needle size !
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I have been using 25 1 for my quads and 231.1/2 on my glutes .
However I have been having really hard time after many years to inject my quads with 25 and last time i hit nerve which was really painful !
I always wanted try injecting on my delts but i was kind of scared of 251 !
my question is can I use 291/2 insulin for delt i have seen people claiming even using 30 for delts !
Can i use 29 * 1/2 for quads as well ?
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This morning I made the switch from 23g 1.5" to 21g 1" for glutes and my oils went in a lot faster (obviously). My gf is the one that injects me and she's always commented how difficult it was to push oils in the 23g.
Alphamale50021g? Why? I would say that you should go back to at least the 23g. You must be new to using gear, right? There's no need to use a pin that thick for injections. Even for drawing you don't need that size pin!
you're gonna create a lot of issues with scar tissue using that 21g
Alphamale500Lots!!!
Dominick77facts.
Yeah you're probably right. My gf always complains when I set up with the 23g even when I heat up with oil a little, still takes her a while to push the plunger. I only have a handful of 21g left and only 4 weeks left on my NPP cycle.
what size barrel are you using dude?:
3mL syringes
well there is your problem bro , pushing oil through a 3ml barrel is rough even when your pushing through a 22-23g needle.
Get some 1ml barrels , the difference is night and day.
You're not being serious, are you? The barrel just holds the oil so whether it's 1 mL or 5 mL of oil, the flow of the oil is controlled by the opening (the needle). Ain't no way you can push 2 mL of oil through a 29g needle as fast as you can through an 18g needle, regardless of barrel size.
He is being serious, it has to do with the diameter of the syringe. A 3ml is wider and thus therefore requires more force to gain the same amount of pressure inside the chamber pushing the oil.
http://tomfangrow.com/Syringe%20Pressure.html
5lbs of Force applied to a 1ml syringe provides 187psi on the liquid, where as 5lbs on a 3ml syringe only equates to 55psi on the liquid.
^^ yep .
Forgive my initial judgments of you spear, I sometimes forget to never judge by the cover.
No hard feelings man, just happy to help out where I can. As a fellow vet I know we can be a little disgruntled every now and then ;)
Hey @GreatSpear and @addicted.to.pain - first I owe ATP an apology. I now realize (thx to GS) what you meant. I'm sorry I replied the way I did when all you were doing was helping me. GS: thanks for explaining this to me.
np bro I don't fully understand the fluid dynamics of it , but it works I know that.
I don't use anything smaller than a 25g anymore... it can be a pain but its better than scar tissue
jayiskjust make sure she doesnt use a 12 in in the glutes...lol
basskiller89I use a 23g 1" pin but only go about 1/2" depth on my quads otherwise I too hit a nerve due to depth, I never tried using a insulin syringe to inject gear, it's hard enough with a 23 for me
As others have said, the length of the needle is important to ensure you inject deep enough into the muscle. I use 1.5in for glutes and 1in for shoulders, quads and ventro glutes.
The gauge is largely dependent on the thickness of the oil being pinned. For example, I use 25 or 27g for mct oil. For anything else I'll use either 23 or 25g. Thick oil will take forever to push through 27g.
isn't it hard to self inject on shoulders though , And doesn't matter if you got tattoo there or nah , Infection wise ?
Don’t inject quads, you will thank me later.
Glutes, shoulders preferred and pre contest when runnin our of space do triceps.
This should give you enough time to give each spot 7 days rest for oil to dissolve
what size of needle you use for shoulders?
1” 25g works well for shoulder
5/8 25g are even better if you aren't injecting a lot of oil bud
Word, 1cc max.
Did you guys watch Dave Plumbo video on youtube ! He thinks quads is the most dangerous spot for the injection and it should be never done there !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hPWi69VtFg&t=218s
I would take 'Dave Plumbo's' lol advice with a pinch of salt (or 10ml of test) personally....
jayiski prefer 21 or 18 g 1 1/2. but that is just me.
Pansy! I got 8g. Best that
Hahaha
fuck all that, real men use a marinade injector . Stab that baby right into my quad.
Haha
jayisk10 cc plunger too...lol
Only way to go!
jayisknice!!!!! haha
'Shudder' - You bloody animal! Lol
jayiski dont like to wrestle with the plunger on smaller gauges. and the larger gauges dont bother me or give me any type of PIP. the 18 in the shoulder is always funny when you are pulling the needle out.., it literally looks like you are pulling a nail out of your shoulder.
You are joking right LOL Thats like a harpoon
jayiskno...,actually i do.
Any specific reason?
jayiski have very large shoulders and thighs. those are the spots i do my injects. i've tried 25 g and i have to struggle too much with the plunger. actually bent one once pushing to hard.
my shots are usually always 3 cc's unless its tne/test suspension.
so 18 and 22 g work best for me. shoulder i try to stick with 22 g because when i pull an 18 g out blood comes out cause i cant apply an alcohol pad while i pull the needle out. when i use an 18 g in the thigh i can put a alcohol pad against the skin as i pull the needle out to stop any blood.
Experienced this today for myself. Its amazing how flimsy those little 25g's are. Smooth going in, but gotta really watch the hands...
Okay Well Damn you gotta be huge dude . Yeah Can imagine quite a lot of blood could spurt out using an 18 gauge . Read of people seeing a stream of blood going across the room using smaller needles
I think he's on about me there Jay Lol
Think i would have to sit Down if i Saw blood across the room from my shoulder LOL
My spray was out of my ventro glute sideways Lol I've barely seen much blood ever come out of shoulders, I'd say its more of a painful nerve issue with them out of anything. Jay is about 320 bud so he can take the knitting needles Lol
One question . Did you shit a brick When you Saw the spray lol
i Think shoulders are the Best for me so far a little tricky with the right since Im lefty but i Get by lol .. Holy Hell !!
Damn !!!! Im lost for words right Now
OMG I've just realised those are the Pink needles they use to draw blood when donating aren't they! Lol
Defo not right in the head Jay hahaha
jayiskstrange you say that. people have been telling me that my whole life...lol
I have been doing glute and quads . However , after many years every single time i have been doing quads i hate it and when the last time that i hit nerve , I started searching more about it and I accidentally saw this video from Dave Palumbo which he warns and so against injecting in quads !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hPWi69VtFg&t=218s