posted Wed, 03/06/2013 - 23:43
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I work in a hospital and yesterday I was running a floor machine and something shiny laying down in the corner caught my eye. Sure enuf it was an open, unsheathed syringe with its wrapper laying beside it. And it wasn't just any syringe, it was an 18 gauge 1.5"!!! I couldn't imagine anybody stabing me with that thing, it looked like a freakin pencil! So my question to you all is: what's the biggest gauge pin you've ever used? And does size play any significant role in increasing or decreasing PIP?
(I have read that other factors like how fast you inject, temperature of compound being injected, injection site, and many more have an effect on PIP, im just wondering if anyone is 99.9% positive that gauge and length has caused or reduced PIP)
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18g going thru the rubber stopper will tear it up after multiple times. The needle is pretty big. I definitely would not shoot up with that.
All of the things you mentioned do play a role in pip. temp, gauge, speed of injection, site, temp, compound, virgin muscles, how clean the gear is ,how well it was filtered. And we are al different. Some will just be more vulnerable to pip no matter what...For me, i only use 18g to draw, NEVER to pin. There is no doubt it would be painfull but also can cause scar tissue. I prefer either 23 or 25g x 1 1/2in. Those work well. And if your more prone to pip you can take the extra steps tp reduce it like heating your gear a little bit, breing extra concious that your hand is very still and injecting slowly while pinning
i used 18g x 1 inch for a while cause my 22's didnt come yet. i pinned my delts, i had no change in PIP. the only time i get pip is when i load the same pin with test and deca and inject at the same time.
ive been pulling with an 18 and pinning with either 21 or 22 gauge
18g to the DELTS!!?? God damn. Did it hurt pushing thru ur skin?
I use my 18g's to load my syringes, then I switch to a 27g. I try to stick the 18g into the same slit, so I don't tear up the vial to much.
What do u mean "tear it up"? Would it make holes too big or what? (I'm new to this, that's why I'm asking)
would likely cause more pip, as well as more scar tissue, simply because a bigger needle will cause more trauma
I couldnt imagine using an 18g, my first cycle was 21g pins cause that was all I could get and even those were unpleasant.
"would likely cause more pip, as well as more scar tissue, simply because a bigger needle will cause more trauma"
This is exactly what I thought too.
No1Biggest iv used is 23g, I usually use 25g now. But yeah noone uses an 18g to pin just to draw
My very first cycle was test 400 for 12 weeks. Used 18g pins the whole time. My girl got them from her dad who raised cattle. I would hold the mantle above the fireplace while she pinned my glutes. Pip the entire cycle. Ah to be young and retarded. Now I use slins as much as possible.
12 weeks.....ur ass probably looked like someone shot u with a shotgun. Probably felt like it too
Yep. I remember about midway through the cycle, I was trying to climb in my truck and basically came to tears trying to sit down. Golf ball sized knots on both sides. I didn't really have access to anythng smaller, or at least had no clue where to get them. Horrible cycle and a waste of time. That was probably 11 or 12 years ago.
I remember my first cycle was sustanon 250 preloads from mexico. they came in glass syringes with needles attached. Dont remember what size, but they were definately bigger than 23. man they hurt. slow injections cause I just couldn't stab myself and no one knew what I was doing.......oh the memories.
you draw with that then switch to whatever you pin with
Yeah tht would make it faster. I was just wondering if anyone used this size pins
AnonBro my home boy used something thick it was vet needle and his shy squirt blood I couldn't believe he stabbed himself with this thick long fucking vet needle bro sick
Blood squirted after he pinned?
Double post. My bad.
I believe 18 would cause a bit of pip more than 21 would
I would think so