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i like the short ester and var for a cutter. however, the length should remain between 8-10 IMO. i wouldn't run the var more than 6 weeks for you and your experience level. also, because of your experience level, you should consider starting at 50mg ED for the first week or so. then work your way up to 75 and pay attention to your body. if you've never run var before or at that high of a dose, you're gonna wish you'd pumped your brakes a bit on this one. lastly, that AI dose is way too high, bro. i'm gonna do you a favor and layout what i think is appropriate for you, then give you a reference link for some AI info:

wk 1-8 prop 100 EOD
wk 2-8 var 50-75 ED
wk 1-8 aromasin 6.25-12.5 ED

pct (3 days after last pin)

clomid: 100/100/50/50
nolva: 40/40/20/20

due to the short life of the prop, you don't need to run the AI thru pct. however, you should run it 3 days past last pin (stopping the day pct starts).

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/ai-as-needed...

p.s.

don't forget your liver supports

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I ran a similar cycle to this last year at 70 mg of Var per week for 8 weeks except I ran it with adex instead.. I ended up receiving Aromasin instead of adex and read that I should be taking 25 mg per day... Didn't really understand why I would have to run a higher dose of something that's slightly stronger then the adex

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25mg ED is for cancer patients, brother. you're AI dose should always be matched with the amount(s) of hormones administered that are subjective to aromatization (conversion to estrogen). if you're used to 70mg of var then do your thing. i'd still start at 50 and work your way up, but that's your choice.

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good idea, actually. a low aromasin dose and the proviron will actually complement each other here in terms of anti estrogen and binding to SHBG. less activity by SHBG means higher free test. higher free test means more test to interact with receptors.

i actually had edited my original post. i had gone with 8 weeks flat on both, but thought maybe a more conservative approach for this guy? either way, i think it's perfect.

to the OP:

keep in mind that both anavar and proviron are DHT derivatives, so they will elevate DHT levels. proviron is very mild in this regard, while anavar is more so. elevated DHT levels not only can cause hair loss but can also inflame the prostate. to help with prostate inflammation, prostate supports like saw palmetto will help safe guard.

proviron is also not a 17aa compound so liver toxicity is less of an issue with it in a cycle. this is one of the reasons it is more versatile. anavar however is a 17aa, so liver enzymes will be affected. to safeguard, liver supports like milk thistle or liv52 should be added.