+ 18 Test Flu - What is it and what to do
“Test Flu” – What it is and what to do
All of us at one time or another has experienced “Test Flu” in our cycles. I want to give some insight to educate the community and give some possible remedies in helping relieve the symptoms. So you can get the most out of your cycle.
First, what is “Test Flu”? It is not an official diagnosis that a physician would label, but a term that is associated with the flu because of the similarity of symptoms. The symptoms have a rapid onset. Often starts with the onset of low grade fever, headache, fatigue, and body aches. Not in that exact order or even all the symptoms listed may occur. Listed below are a few symptoms you may be experiencing:
• fever (low grade)
• severe aches and pains in the joints and muscles
• generalized weakness
• fatigue
• headache
• dry cough
• sore throat and watery discharge from your nose
“Test Flu” varies from individual to individual based on their immune system. It’s the intercorelation between your immune system and your endocrine. If you overload one then the other responds unfavorably. It’s your body’s auto immune response to the foreign substance that has entered your body and caused and influx of hormones. Your body sees the large increase as foreign and tries to get rid of it. Triggering an inflammatory response and raising you metabolism. Once your body builds its resistance to it, the symptoms relieve or even resolve. This usually takes a week or so.
“Test Flu” doesn’t necessarily mean your gear is dirty or that it’s good to go either. That’s more of an urban legend than truth.
Generally, the “Test Flu” is far more common with the short ester preparations like propionate. If you are using TestE then maybe consider to change to Test Cyp
A good rule of thumb is the shorter the carboxylic acid chain, then the greater degree of possible tissue irritation that can trigger the auto immune response. The reason being is these esters are acids, so they cause a localized reaction that the body reacts in a common defensive fashion and thus creating the “Test Flu”
Now this not always the case in every person because please remember we are all engineered differently. So everyone reacts differently to different things.
So what can we do to help to prevent or even reduce the symptoms in the meantime?
My OTC remedy is Vitamin C 4000mg in two split doses (2000mg in AM , 2000mg in PM) a day and Zinc 100mg in two split doses (50mg in AM, 50mg in PM) for a week and drop the dosages in half until symptoms subside. Drink plenty of water to ensure hydration which will also aid in recovery.
I hope this information was useful and helped the community
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casey.38Thanks great info.
This is some great information. I have had numerous interactions with people who have said their gear is bad. It gave them an infection so they want to go to the ER. It is always with inexperienced users who don't know what test flu is.
I know your post is old, but I do have some questions on this. I've done two cycles within one year first cycle I had no gains, but diet was not right. This cycle was stealth mix. Second cycle was from new supplier andit was dbol and test c. 40mg ed dbol, 750mg split n half once a week.. So I ended up getting very sick and flu like conditions, this lasted for about 2 weeks. Continued to use product with no gains what so ever for 3 more weeks and was very tired and weak.Long story short i ended up in hospital with Pleural Effusion (fluid between rib cage and lung, fluid on the lung). My question is do you think this was causes by my product? All my bloods and cultures of this came back negative and not one doctor can figure out what happen. Soo I steall have this gear and was thinking of just cruisn on the test c to see what happens at 500mg a week. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
I’m 57 been doing cycles for some time. Yesterday eve I pinned 150 mg of Test P. I’m doing a good product Testonex, this type of Test is very acidic . Been off my last cycle for 12 weeks. As soon as I pinned this stuff I knew I was in for a ride that NIGHT. And here it came, as before I started to shake, I could not get warm , no matter what I did! My dreams were crazy off and on sleep, then came the sweats! My bed was soaked! This happens with short esters as stated. I’m glad I’m retired lol I’m drained from last night. Hit the Vitamin C and Zinc and I’m coming back . Small head ache. You have to expect this especially when doing good gear. Once you’ve gone through this a few times , all is good . You know your body . Don’t sweat it. Not a great way to start a cycle lol
AnonSounds like you may have a blood pressure issue, apparently it's associated with congestive heart failure. To answer your question in 2 parts is 1. If you had no results the first time, why try again?. 2. Get some bloodwork done and maybe a physical before you get back on any cycle.
Area-1255Good read.
I would like to add that juicing greens ginger and garlic chased with a green apple (low glycemic) has helped me immensely. You're getting and immense amount of vitamins and they are much better absorbed. Plus you're getting all kinds of micro nutrients that you don't get with capsules alone. The zinc however, not sure what you would use for that. The relief is almost instantaneous. I feel better right away. I do both juicing and capsules.
Starting on the second week of test cyp today at 500mg/week. Pretty sure I'm getting some test flu :/ got some fever and body aches. Hedache as well. No good.
Started using Gear in Oct..for the 1st time at 50..lol test e 500 a week..felt like shit after 1st week.. thought it was the Flu..took a Zpack..went away after a week..did 8 week cycle felt great..Now continued last week with 500 test e..200 tren e..different Brand..going thru the same shit..could it be because of different brand and got test e or tren e flu?
WTF? Let me get this straight...
you're 50.
you started your 1st cycle roughly 10 weeks ago -an 8 week cycle of test e (long ester)
Roughly 2 weeks after your "first cycle" you're now doing a cycle of test-e and tren-e??
Do I have this right or am I misreading something?
If I'm reading this right, drop the tren. and reduce your test-e to 250mg per week until you know what you're doing.
The reason I'm even suggesting to continue a maintenance TRT dose is I suspect you do not have any PCT on hand and partly because of your age.
I have Nolva n Clomid ..Like I said I'm New to this.. I've read longer cycles..Done plenty of Prohormone cycles. Harsh on liver m Lethargic. .Just tryin something different. Original question Was switching Brands can cause Test Flu again?
You're doing too much too soon...
How can you tell what's going on when you're all over the map?
You're using long esters and quit your cycle just as it began. Then started a second cycle before the first one "ended" basically you cruised into a second cycle (more like paused in your first), and are now introducing TREN into the mix.
All without clear cut goal or plan.
basic AAS use 101: first cycle one compound. Typically Test-e modest dose. with a proper PCT and rest between cycles.
Maybe. But maybe it's diet, lack of fluids, stress, dosage, adding a new compound, a particular carrier/preservative found in both brands. But how are you going to narrow that down without a disciplined plan?
Back off as I suggested. Regroup. and use the search function on the menu bar for first cycles. Preferably you'll look into diet and get you BF down first.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-time-cycle...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles
I couldn't have said it any better myself brother, gotta crawl before you walk.
cracker. . HELP ME HELP ME #$&&@*$had to take a break for a lil bit due to injury. Im back gettn my swole on now. I am seeing test suspension and i dont know what this is . I have used enanthate , sustanon my favorite ,cyp and decca . I m on sustanon to start with but i am curious bout other helpfull stuff . I DONT KNOW if my stuff is real or B12 with fake sticker or what . HOW DO I NOT GET RIPPED OFF.
Test suspension is testosterone base (no ester) suspended in water. Within 30-60 mins of pinning you should notice a big spike in energy- similar to what you would feel after taking a pre-workout product for the first time... A massive pump. Most people use this as a pre-workout product.
What is your current sust dose? How long have you been training? How many cycles have you done in the past? Also, what does your diet look like. If your being honest about your age I can't knock you for being too young but at 150 lbs you should have some room for natty growth unless you are already on trt
Wow, I had never heard of this before, but it explains what I am feeling right now. Thanks! I actually have a bunch of Vitamin C and am grabbing some right now.
I am in week 6 of my test e cycle and I've had body aches and fatigue since day 4. I'm 7 days off test e and still have symptoms
AnonThe test is still in your body after 7 days
I can't confirm the test is your issue causing the symptoms but is very possible ... Load up on vitamin c
Got test flu the last few times with test cyp 250 and test E500. Mixed one to one with filtered grape seed oil and have not had any issues with either since. Hope this helps.
Thought I had test flu...... but it was actually norovirus. Fuckin' fresh produce from mexico :( wash those veggies my friends.
Screenshot the remedy thanx like u said one day ill need it.
Quote: "“Test Flu” ... is not an official diagnosis that a physician would label, but a term that is associated with the flu because of the similarity of symptoms".
It isn't caused by a virus, so a physician wouldn't call it a flu but rather something like "side effects". However, it's notable that the remedy is the same as you would use if you had the 'real' flu: Vitamin C, lots of water, and possibly zinc. But it makes sense since these are the things you'll use to fend off most types of inflammatory irritants to the immune system.
I don't intend to switch to Test Cyp, though (I've never liked it because of it's greater tendency to cause acne - that's my personal experience, I can't speak for others). I've used Test E for more than two years and haven't had any symptoms until just now when I had to use a different brand than usual...for some reason I felt the new brand didn't deliver so I upped dosage which caused these symptoms. So on the note that Test Flu doesn't mean what you've just used is better than what you used previously, you're right about that too.
Good thing that this particular "flu" isn't contagious, heh.
AnonAlways thought it was just in my head, on 3 separate occasions I would pin cyp and get test flu. Then I would switch to test e and no problems at all.
AHA!... So this is what's going on with that mysterious flu of mine. I spent all night last night googling for side effects on high Test levels, but I only found results that stated Too LOW Test levels resulting in these symptoms (apart from the fever which I didn't enter because I thought it was a reaction to the rest of the symptoms rather than a symptom itself).
The moment I saw the title 'Test-Flu', I knew this was what's happened to me. Lol....I should've known I could find the answer here at Eroids.
Thanks for a great article - and take it from me, it's going to be helpful for a LOT of newcomers to Eroids.com and to the roid scene in general.
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It usually only lasts a day or so but the day after injection always SUCKS
I am a newbie doing my first cycle... I am 42 and taking 600mg of sust/week and get "sus flu" symptoms every time I inject.. They have been fairly mild so far, however today I am feeling pretty bad after injecting yesterday... I will try the vitamin C for sure! Also this damn sust leaves me sore as hell after every injection... Lol.
For those wondering, I just got over Test Flu AND food poisoning.
I can confirm, Vitamin C is da bomb. Thanks OP.
I've had test flu big time after fucking up some dosages.
I bashed down my throat shit loads of Vitamin C and also used Advil for shakes, muscle soreness. etc.
It took a week for my body to adjust to the shit I was pumping into it.
I did take about 2-3 days off but then came back harder than ever!!!
You'll be right mate! It's like the flu so take a few days off sleep, bash the above down you throat and you will hit the gym harder than ever before!!!!
its really simple, ive had the test flu when I was younger, cold chills, head, runny noce the whole kabang, all you really need for prevention of the test flu is a GOOD multi-vitamin. it should be taken on a daily basis. I do have a few freinds who use test as well and ive had a few of them come to me and say the got the test flu, I asked them if they had been taken their vitamins and theyre reply was no. for the ones who haver taken their vitamins they never got it. Plain and simple we all should be taking a good multi-vitamin anyways. anyone who has done their research would no that test increases the amount of red blood cells in your body and anytime you have that increase to where your white blood cell stay the same you are going to be more prone to illness thats the main reason why we take vitamins to boost up our white blood cell count.
Got a bit of this myself. I can hardly stand myself. When I'm standing, I want to just lie down. The second I lie down, I want to get up and then sit down... Starting to feel like I need to see an OBGYN just to confirm that I haven't become a whiny girl. I'm kidding, of course...I wonder if the mall is open?
I got flu symptoms on day 4 of my cycle... about 4 hours after my second pin of testp. It hit hard and fast! I couldn't do anything because of the body aches. I took the day off, took some Tylenol and a sleeping pill and slept like a baby right through the day. And the next day I was fresh as ever! But I had such bad body aches that I couldn't imagine doing anything productive. I only experienced weakness and body aches, none of the other symptoms. Not fun.
Have any of you guys run multiple cycles with no symptoms, then had a cycle where you got test flu? Just curious because I have run a few cycles with no problems and was wondering if it is something that I might experience in the future. Probably no real way to know for sure.
lpetI've had something of this sort happen; my first cycle went perfectly fine (keep in mind I was using Test E - a long ester) but my second cycle got me pretty damn sick. Almost identical to flu symptoms, except that it left my body within five or six days, whereas it usually takes me longer to recover from the flu. Mega-doses of Vitamin C worked for me.
For me, on certain high dosage blends with a lot of BA, the flu kicks at about 24 hours post injection. On me, the test flu usually lasts about 12 hours. I just time my shots close to bedtime, so when it kicks in the next day, I'm ready to sleep it off.
AnonIs it like the flu in the conventional sense that you wouldnt be likely to get it twice in the same season, or in this case twice in the same cycle ? If your second cycle is the same as the first will your body be less likely to get test flu ?
cdaddy7Remember endocrine up and immune down bc of the exogenous hormones and ur immune system kicks into overdrive trying to kill the foreign substance to return to homeostasis....the immune system is workn into overdrive and it gets weak and you become susceptible to illnesses.....part of the game bro
Anonyeah but the body does get used to certain things does it not ? So what I asking, like a real flu virus where in theory you cant catch it twice, is test flu like that ? Can you get test flu twice in one cycle ?
cdaddy7Your body builds antibodies for resistance against viral and bacteria infections.....this is due totally with endocrine system being so high bc of the exogenous hormones that the immune system is actually lowered....the go hand in hand....same way the anabolic and catabolic works .....when one level rises up the other gets lowered as an effect of the elevation....your body does not make antibodies for the exogenous hormones so no resistance is built.....so u can get the "test" flu more than once....if you follow my regimen and cut the dose in half after a week and continue thru your cycle u more than likely have no more issues....
AnonAs always my thanks for the incredible info !
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkIve got it now, going to try these tips. Cheers!!
cdaddy7Make sure to post how it goes for u bro.
Just got over a 24 hour one myself. Followed some advice on the board and bam I was better than ever.
Anonits magic, and you ride it out bro! best advice youll ever get lol!
Nice man! Vitamin C and Zinc tips are gold.
Man this was beautiful shit brother! U and I have spent a lot of time talking about topics to bring to the forums and it makes me very proud to see the contributions u are making to this forum. I can attest to having Test Flu or whatever u might want to call it. It's not fun especially when u have no clue what's happening to u. Hopefully now someone can read this and have a clue what's going on and know how to combat it. On a personal note I was battling bronchitis and a sinus infection a week ago. Cdaddys told me to take the exact thing he wrote above and I am feeling great now. Good shit homie!
Nice read!
THanks great info +1
Great information. Frustrating though because I just read something about test flu the other day and everyone was saying it was a myth. People really need to not comment if they have no idea. I had several of these symptoms right after I pinned for the first time in over a year. I knew that my body was reacting to something. Both nights I woke up with night sweats also. No coincidence there!
excellent. +1
zewiGood stuff cdaddy--