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Subq debate

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So ive been reading a lot of different things on subq injections. This is what I have been doing. 75mg prop every other day. 200 sus once a week for 6 weeks then switched to 100 cyp 2 times a week. The prop is the constant. I added npp in as well. Sometimes the volume was over 2ml. I haven't had any issues with pain or welts or anything like that. I inject in my hip a lot of the time. I can't go in my stomach because I get a monthly injection there that's released over the month. The only time I had an issue was with a sources 400mg test blend. Even at .25ml the shit hurt like he'll so I stopped using it. I got bloods pulled yesterday so I wanna see where all this has gotten me. Whenever they come in I'll post em. Just wanted to throw this out there. If they come in good maybe I'll shout out the sources somewhere. If not I'll just go hide in the corner.

tc62's picture

The 400 even im was really painful. Even at 100 or .25 ml it hurt a lot. But with regard to the hip, I usually only use about 1 ml but I HAVE gone more there. Usually when I know I'm going to have a larger volume I'd go in the glute. But as I said before, it hasn't really been painful with the stuff im using. Only thing that hurt was the high mg test.

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DeeMan's picture

So most likely you are giving yourself a sub q or shallow IM injection if you're using a 1/2 needle in the glute. It really depends on your ass fat.There's a thin line between sub q and shallow IM. Now I prefer IM but if one decides sub q, I wouldn't inject any more than 1cc, preferably half cc. Now if oil is mct, dispersion will be faster than other thicker oils injected sub q but blood levels will be lower than IM obviously and infection risk goes up. Some like sub q but most like IM. Be careful and good luck

tc62's picture

As far as I know it's all mct.

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DeeMan's picture

Yea bro to be on the safe side, I would pinch ass fat and then inject if you want sub q. That's just being 100% sure injection is all in fat

press1's picture

I know how much I dislike injecting just a few iu's of HGH into my stomach skin - I find it painful and it makes me feel nauseous looking at an injection going into my stomach so putting in some Test & NPP nope, I just wouldn't want to. I look at it as we always preach to others to inject Deep into muscle to discourage abscesses, spillage, correct oil dispersal over time into muscle etc. I just can't see how results can be as constant or safe. I have seen many who do though and they are happy enough with blood results so really I think its down to how much pain you experience from it. Your a free man to do as you please brother! lol

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tc62's picture

Yea I don't put it in my stomach...its usually in the hips or glute. I was saying I get something completely different in the stomach once a month. Nothing to do with aas. But it IS extremely painful for about 2 weeks after the doc does it. But as for the test and npp I really don't experience pain from it...sometimes it will be a little sore for about a day but then absolutely nothing.

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press1's picture

If you are doing it in those places then isn't it just a really shallow injection?

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tc62's picture

I'm using a half in needle...have used 5/8 too

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Makwa's picture

If you are not pinching and pulling out the skin and injecting underneath you really aren’t doing a subq injection

tc62's picture

So what would you consider that then? I mean I deff have some fat around the hips and ass cheek.

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Makwa's picture

Shallow IM

tc62's picture

Hmm...i didn't think that a half inch in the cheek or hip would be im at all. Maybe that's why I'm not really experiencing any pip at all? I just figured that since it was such a small needle it would be in the fat.

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press1's picture

I sometimes use a 5/8 if I have run out of 1 inchers, but definitely wouldn't class it as sub q. If you get the needle all the way in its okay for small amounts around 1ml but not really ideal. Get some orange 1" and get that all the way in, it barely takes any longer to push in and doesn't faze you out to look at like a 1.5" Green does.

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tc62's picture

The ones I use to draw are orange 1 inch 25g.

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press1's picture

You should be drawing with a Green 5/8 or Green 1.5" bud.

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tc62's picture

I feel like that's just a matter of convenience...yea I get that the greens are a larger gauge and get the medicine in the syringe faster but I'm in no rush when I do this. It's only a few seconds difference...and I had an issue with a sources stoppers breaking off small pieces into the bottle when I used a bigger gauge to draw so I had to use a smaller 25g to draw.

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tc62's picture

I get that there's risk involved. But I feel like risk is inherent in what we do here. I mean shit, were using stuff we bought off the internet most of the time made by some ugl somewhere. I'm just trying this as an experiment to see how viable this could be.

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