posted Tue, 09/03/2024 - 22:48
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Sustanon Cruise
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Hello brothers
I was thinking of experimenting and cruising on sustanon instead of test-e for the following months.
For those of you that have experience with it, do you think it's a good idea?
I can't do frequent injections because pip gets in the way of bjj training, so I was thinking about 1 every 4 or 5 days. Which protocol do you think is best for stable hormone levels?
I would appreciate any help!!!
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You are looking for problems when there are none and if you can't find them, you create them.
Is sustanon less painful than enanthate? That's wrong. Switching to sustanon will give you the opposite effect if you're worried about PIP even with enanthate.
Are you switching from enanthate to short esters mix? For what? To manage the cycle with AIs later? What's the point for such complications?
I think switching enanthate with undecanoate is the only suitable alternative for your goals.
If you are not injecting ED or EOD, then don't use Sustanon - Use Enanthate or Cyp. If you are going to be injecting as far apart as 5 days then it may be worth considering undecanoate as the stuff remains stable forever, it will take longer to build up though but if you aren't using it for bulking up or a proper steroid cycle then it really doesn't matter imo.
AK80Insulin syringes (30g x 1/2") give you the flexibility to hit spots all over your body that don't give you PIP. Do the math on whatever vial you have to figure out 50mg every other day (200mg per week) and you'll be good to go.
Sust eod pins at minimum. Subq for real trt is a breeze. 29x1 and done
Man I tried subq in the past and it leaves annoying little lumps that take a long time to go away...have you found a way around that?
Pharma from dr doesnt swell or irritate. Hot pad helps if needed. If your self medicating then im pin 1 time a week cyp or enth
Yeah If you can only hit your glutes just run cypionate or enanthate. I think it's best to run sustanon eod or every day. I understand delts/quads can be painful and a little scary but once you do it you'll keep going back. I rotate ventro glutes, delts and quads.
Sust is great, but (I could be wrong) I think it’s more suited to inject EOD or at most E3D. The short esters in it will have you going up and down if only using every 4-5 days. You’d (imo) prob be better off staying with cyp/e if only doing every 4-5 days.
Have you tried anything to help with pip? Back when I first started IM injections, I’d get pip bad, esp from higher concentrations. I ordered grape seed oil on eBay, and I also would wrap my vials in a heating pad until they were basically too hot to hold. Diluting it down and heating it up helped me get rid of all pip.
I get pip with frequent injections because I hit only glutes but I ll try heating the vials, thank you!
Higher concentrations I will never, ever try again, I did 0.5ml of test-e 400 twice and I still regret it, had extreme pip and swelling, I couldn't walk for a week. It was so much I thought I had an infection.
@Kaido try diluting it with grape seed oil too, as well as heating it. I had the same problem the first time I tried a higher concentration. Couldn’t walk for a week. Diluting with GSO plus heating REALLY helped me. I just filled an empty vial with GSO so I could heat that as well, and was good to go. I like the higher concentrations because it’s less oil, and if you ever run multiple compounds, the oil amount can start to get big quick lol.
You can not only hit glutes. If you can't use other injection sites please rethink your use of steroids.
Thanks buddy but everyone has his own reasons, that's not the point of the thread. I would love to hear if you have any advice on running Sus!
The arrogance to say everybody has its own reasons is unreal. It's not about reason, it's about scar tissue which is going to become a problem in the future.
Rotating injection sites is steroids 101, this is why I think you should rethink your steroids use if you can't.
Also like Thelcon side, injecting sust e4d or more is going to be a rollercoaster ride. So you'll have to do it ED/EOD. You CAN NOT inject only your glutes ED/EOD without risking problems in the future.
I understand what you are saying is for my own good and what's going to happen with scar tissue.
It's not that I say its ok that I pin only glutes but consider this:
morning - wrestling
midday - weights
evening - bjj
Repeat x 6 per week
It's not convenient to pin elsewhere, I constantly have bruises and mat burns on shoulders, quads, about all over my body.
I pin quads and delts in the off-season no problem!
Thanks you, I got it sus is not for me right now!
How do you have the energy to do all that every day??!! Is this your profession?
Alright brother! Its not hard to inject other sites like ventroglutes. I even inject chest which is super easy and painless.
I think that was his advice on running sust. It should be ED/EOD. Rotate injection sites. Else you run the risks of scar tissue etc building up. PIP etc.
Ive run Sust the past 4 weeks after my last Sust cycle just to finish up my vial. HOwever I pin EOD. Butt cheek, Butt cheek, Shoulder, shoulder. Repeat.
I think you will also see many will say you are "wasting" the Prop in the Sust since you aren't doing injections frequently enough. Thus might as well go with the longer ester to begin with.