posted Tue, 12/26/2023 - 18:16
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Red skin while on cycle ? Tren, NPP, Test C
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I am currently running Tren A 300 a week , NPP, 300 a week and Test C 600 a week . I was running the test and NPP for about 3 weeks then introduced the Tren . It’s been about 2 weeks with the Tren now and I have noticed my upper body is Red almost like I have been tanning . This is my first time with Tren I am curious if this is common ? I know it could be blood pressure related I checked it a week ago it was normal . I have read that some guys get a red glow while on Tren . Just curious if this is common or if there is something I should be looking out for . I’m going to get labs done this week to make sure everything is good . I’m also running Aromasin eod, GW every day and N2 Gaurd . I have caber on hand but don’t feel I need it .
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Bp must be checked daily. Hows your estrogen?
Estrogen is good , I’m taking aromosin every other day I have caber on hand too but don’t feel I need it
As far as I'm aware its because your metabolism is kicking into overdrive, same as when your whole body heats up about 10 minutes after you pin your first shot of the cycle (with Acetate). Blood flushes everywhere - Kidneys self destructing, Liver melting down that kind of thing LMAO
I’ve never noticed any feeling after a shot until recently and it was tren ace, mast p and prop mix. Idk what it was but kinda like an anxious warm jittery almost. Hope it wasn’t the start of organ failure or some shit lol
Most good Tren ace will pretty much get to work straight away, at most it will take an hour or 2. Its so damn strong it just doesn't hang around, its quite different to enanthate if you are use to that. Heart rate will go up a gear in no time, warm feeling, general temperament change and not for the better lol.
No I’ve only done ace and it was years ago. And then started a small cycle with it like two weeks ago and get that feeling after basically every shot now. Unfortunately I’ve had to take the last few days off and may have to pause this cycle for a while. Kinda disappointed because I was really on point, doing my cardio and abs, drinking all my water, hitting calories and I seemed to swell up a little in the first two weeks already so I was excited but shit happens. But ya that feeling doesn’t really bother me as long is it’s not like cardiac arrest or kidney failure or some shit lol
As long as you watch your HR and BP on Tren and use meds if it needs bringing down you will generally be okay on it, and don't overstay your welcome on it as tempting as it is. Astragalus Root and things like Grape seed extract, Pine bark extract are great ways of detoxifying your kidneys too. The astragalus works great on the liver too, better than milk thistle imo.
Oh good to know, I’m always concerned with the kidneys because dialysis scares the shot out of me. It just sounds like a death sentence
During my time on here I have known a few guys that have had to start dialysis because their eGFR has become so low, you do have to run things pretty high for quite a while for this to happen though. Having to sit there having your blood filtered 3 or 4 times a week at 4 hours a time is not pleasant. If you specifically want to help your kidneys I made up a drink containing all the main ingredients (most effective) from things like the Revive and NOW kidney all in ones supps, it is: Astragalus Root powder, Pine bark extract, Grape seed extract, Cranberry extract, Turmeric, NAC, Alpha Lipoic Acid. I buy them seperately and put them all into a drink.
I was super nervous about my eGFR one time because the lab I did only should above and below I think 60 and so my results said above 60 and I was like wtf is that mean like 65? Because I’m thinking if it’s above 80 or 90 it would say above 80 not above 60. But it turns out I was fine and that’s just how the lab did it, but scared me real good
Yes thats the way you guy's do it in the US on your Lab work - It will simply state whether it is above 60 (fine) or below (not good). Over here it gives the exact filtration rate which in all honesty is much better - because if you look at a kidney disease info chart there are different levels of Chronic kidney disease. All of us really are supposed to be above 90 at any time, but many will fall below this level and be around 80 if they have been running things like Anavar, Trenbolone etc. It will usually go back up once you go back to TRT or off cycle. However if you are someone that also consistently uses things like painkillers, antibiotics, NSAID's etc then this level does need to be checked when you are also running steroids. Dialysis is required when you hit Stage 5 kidney disease which is an eGFR of less than 15, you will generally be put on a transplant list too. However the level you never want to hit really is 30 as I believe below this your immune system really begins to suffer, you have to monitor everything you eat including making sure things like potassium and magnesium levels don't get too high.
Once again thank you for this information. This is the kind of stuff that’ll keep us in the lifestyle for decades. And speaking on how we do it here in the US, I believe(I might be wrong) you can actually calculate your own eGFR using some of the other numbers in your bloodwork, I think. And you mentioned potassium and magnesium, so would drinking too much electrolytes be harmful? Because I drank like 4 packets of that liquid IV stuff over the course of two days and I kinda felt like shit, I thought I was gunna be mega hydrated and feel great, idk if it was from that but I just felt awful. Idk if it has magnesium but I know it has potassium
No need to worry buddy - I meant you have to watch those levels if your eGFR becomes very low like below 30. As you have normal funtion you are fine. You just need your creatinine level which should be on your bloods mate, here ya go:
https://www.kidney.org/professionals/kdoqi/gfr_calculator
I’m getting labs done tomorrow I’ll have the results Friday I’ll post them and you guys can let me know what you see
I’m running 300 mg for 8 weeks . Which is considered a low dose form what I have read
That's a sensible level - nothing to worry about.
I was planning on 8 week cycle taking N2 gaurd
I have just had a look through what it contains buddy - the problem with things like this is they blind you with all the ingredients they have rammed into them, but if you know what you are really looking at then you will realise that the doses they include these ingredients in are not high enough to be effective at protecting you properly. Take for example the Astragalus Root, its 300mg in the N2 guard - however it needs to be taken at 2 to 4g per day to be effective at protecting the kidneys. NAC is also in there at 300mg, but ideally we need 1.5 grams for the level of protection we require. I am not saying that this won't help you bro, but it is much better to buy the main things seperately so you can take them in the effective dosages. I did a liver and kidney supps page a while back now where all the most effective supplements you can take are listed in the proper dosages required.
Lots of window dressing in most supps. The ones you really have to watch out for are the "proprietary blends" which means a little bit everything but not enough of anything. Never buy proprietary blends.
Ahh yes I read your stuff when you reminded us it was national liver day!! Good info, we need guys like you reminding us to keep healthy. My liver and kidney thank you press!
Thankyou Very much for your kind words Mate!
I get the "meat' sweats anytime i eat anything when on tren.
Its when you get up and realise you have lost about 3 litres of fluid into the bed sheets thats the fun part, all your clothes become freezing cold because they are wet through in the winter time. Must spend about 4 hours putting lost fluids back in lol
I’m two weeks in and luckily very little to almost no sides . Some night sweating and regular sweating but not too bad
Its a bitch running tren. The wife is freezing cold with 3 quilts on in bed and I am lying there buck ass naked with ceiling fan on dripping sweat. I have to get a new pillow after every tren run. Can only soak up so much sweat before it gets to gross.
Ugh that’s terrifying to hear. I get hot enough on any cycle, doesn’t matter what it is. And that’s me already fan going nonstop. I avoid direct sunlight too long unless I’m at home and can take my shirt off, and if a room is over 73 I’m outta there. Thought maybe this winter weather might make things more comfortable, but drier skin and sudden sweats are horrible to think about.
You don't get drier skin as such, but the joints do tend to dry. You live in a Brutal climate thats the problem!
It’s a combo thing for me really. While on cycle I really have to keep the oily skin thing down. Hereditary. My father had the worst scarring I’ve seen, through his teenage years to 40,s with acne. So combine my efforts and the humidity really drops here in winter time, so it’s get uncomfortable fast if I break out in a hot sweat quick.
DHb does the same thing to me.
Yea lol my wife has 2 blankets on I’m laying there in underwear wanting to turn the AC on
lol sounds about right
Tren does it to me also, red across the shoulders and chest, and it feels a little warm but idk what it is
Yes it’s my chest and shoulder area , as long as it’s a normal side and nothing to be concerned about . That’s what I’m getting at
Body temp increasing?
I get that from tren as well.
Wish i can help but i stay one color and its brown. I dont turn pale when sick, dont turn red when flushed or hot, dont turn blue or purple when i cant breathe, just brown. And we are called "colored," lol
Lol now you know damn well the term
"colored" hasn't been used since the 60s.
Haha thats what i say when hear people still call black people colored. I dont get mad i just say "people even use that term anymore!?"
To be honest I did hear some young guy say that before which surprised me cause he wasn't an older guy.
Lmao I’ve never thought I’ve that. I’m pale with red cheeks, thousands of brown freckles, turn pink in the summer and purple if I hold my breath, if anyones “colored” it’s me lol