posted Fri, 07/02/2021 - 03:16
3114
New**** First cycle... Looking for advice
ad
Hi Yall.
Looking for some advice. First time for a cycle. 40 years old. I workout 5-6 days out of the week. Eat clean meals 5-6 times a day. I'm looking to get rid of stubborn belly fat, and get toned/ build muscle. I weigh 167lbs and I'm 5'7". BF around 17.
I will be getting blood works,etc. I don't have any health conditions.
Looking for something simple to start with. and go from there. I have done my research. Leaning towards test with a pct.
Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks in advance.
- Bookmark
- 0
- 0
gearboy667Check out beginner cycles and post your proposal!!
Ok find your source be patient w this, start w testosterone cyponaite, or enanthate. Run 500mg every week, see how you feel? Some will argue on cycle length but you are 40 years old don’t think 500 mg is going f to cause much damage it’s going to make you feel like god most likely if this is really your first run… I would say run at least 12 weeks on 12 off do research on your post cycle therapy what supps you will need… but it would be nice to know what your levels are right now it could even be time for HRT nobody knows but you my friend you should get blood work done first see where your at. Good luck just know once most people begin w an anabolic they tend to never really stop or fuck up there body and have to wait for reset if your lucky --
RustyhookerTime on + pct = time off
AnonTry a TRT clinic first and let insurance pay for darts and labs.
Can you walk into a clinic and tell them you want to do a cycle, and they give you the needles and the drugs and then devise a pct plan?
Change your handle to Willy Bonkers because that advice came all the way out of left field.
RustyhookerDude hasnt even talked bloodwork and you advise trt?
I had blood work done. Test is 499mg (which is considered normal). Don't know if a TRT clinic will accept me for that. All my rest of the blood work came back fine.
What do yall think about a 10 week 250mg a week test cycle with 4 weeks of PCT. How much pct should be used based on this 10 weeks? I'm still looking to source this stuff out.
They wont, 499 is not bad, that's almost in the middle. 250 a week may only put you at around 2-3000, try 3-400 so you can be around 5K. That's a magic number right there, that's 2 pins a week every 3rd then 4th day. If you dont grow on that then you did not diet right or train right.
Clinics around here(midwest) will accept anyone at any test level. That is, aslong as your bp is under 140/90. Sad really
That is pretty much how they are around my area. They want to get you to "Optimal" levels.
They just want to get your money. Optimal levels is a legal excuse to cover their asses for them to jack up your natural levels to the top end of the range when your levels were just perfectly fine to begin with. This way they can justify ruining a perfectly functioning HPTA and they now have your money in their pocket for life. Some people legitimately do need it but a large share I believe definitely don't.
"Optimal" is fine aslong as your bloods are good and you feel great.
I have not personally used them, but know a few that have. They will pretty much prescribe the you what you want. But they do make you do blood work often. They do not take insurance, and charge pretty much double. Dunno if that is a good thing or bad.
its all about the money to those places.
RustyhookerThis group....join. Tons of great info for beginning folks
https://www.eroids.com/group/beginners-cycles
AnonNot for nothing it gives him legal cover, on the record, when he starts growing and/or his test levels start rising.
AnonRead the whole sentence, brother. It translates 'go to a doctor, he will test you and place you on a safe level so you can see what it's about '
That's about the safest advice ever given. WTF?
RustyhookerTry a TRT clinic first and let insurance pay for darts and labs
Your quote. Keep it up and you might find troll status. Do not advise trt like that
AnonWhat are the exact words then, Doctor Rusty Hooker, i should use for a public steroid forum? It is LITERALLY the exact right advice for a 40 year old man unsure but 'wanting more.'
Further, i actually offered productive advice, rather than 'what he said' like yourself...more than once.
In reading a little over an hour you are in nearly every post somewhere.
HOW AM I THE TROLL?!
Again...sir....respectfully....WTF? ..and leave me alone.
Come on mods!
RustyhookerYou ASK for bloods and see the results FIRST. This site does not just throw trt at folks as a FIRST option.
Your time would ve better served learning the site before advising rubbish.
AnonTrt comes with a doctor and blood monitoring. How are you missing that?!
Hey Gene! The op doesn't need trt, clinic or real dr, with natty test levels of 499. A beginner's test only cycle is up to him, but he should do the research and the proper bloodwork for that too. Just slow down a bit, you are new to this site. Safety is key here, especially for beginners looking for advice.
Missing the point entirely. It’s went so far above your head it’s just collided with Virgin Galactic and Branson ain’t happy.
Blood work first.
AnonBloodwork so the eroid docs can set the course. Got it
Great. You Got there in the end.
Also, going round negging comments because your buthurt makes you look like a right sausage.
Lol, I got me a neg too! I called him Gene Wilder though, which is one of my favorite actors.
Fixed
basskiller88Look up beginner cycles and post your proposal!
I would say get some test prop and test E or C. Run prop at about 100 mg eod and 500 mg of test E a week and after the 3 week taper down the prop and just run test E at 500 mg a week for 10 weeks.
Pip will be more than enough just from test e in virgin muscle. Prop can be pretty brutal. Kicking with prop is an advanced cycle and not well suited for a newb. Can make estro management tricky.
RustyhookerFirst time for a cycle
First timer might not have 10 points to inject nor the procedure experience.
The reason you are light is training too much! 4 or 5 days week MAXIMUM training rest needed for healing time and eating to gain muscle weight. 500mg testE for 10 week. Pin twice
Test E or Test C 500mg for 12 weeks would be a good starting cycle.
Stack with orals eg dbol for the first 4 weeks if you want an extra boost before the long ester kicks in.
PCT with clomid and nolvadex
AnonIncorrect about the orals for a first cycle. Test only for a first cycle to establish how he reacts to just Test and learn to dial in an AI. Everyone reacts different. Some guys need an AI at 100mg of Test a week, and some don't need an AI at 500mg of Test a week. An AI should always be on hand. Throwing in orals really complicates things for a first cycle, especially an oral with such a high risk of gyno sides such as Dbol. Spend some time in the forums reading before giving out advice or this will become a very common occurrence.
@StayStrong2021 please read this!
Thanks sir. Is there a reason you recommend 500mg over 250 or 300? From your experience, will the cycle bulk with muscle and cut fat to lean out?
AnonDon't listen to that guy. Go research first cycles, AI, and PCT in the forums.
Rustyhooker^^^^^^shred777 has ya
Orals such as doll can be very harsh especially for a first cycle. Not only will u have to deal with toxic effects, blood pressure issues, but he doesn't even know how his body is going react to higher test and estrogen levels
AnonYou came tot he right place man!
The forums here are full of answers
https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles
https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens
Thanks for sharing. Appreciate all the help I can get.
Thanks!
I'm thinking 300mg test e (2x a week) for 12 weeks. pct week 14-18 (clomid). AI on hand. Consume around 2500-2900 calories of clean meals.Train 5-6 days a week. Mostly weight training, an hour or two of cardio a week. Train is between an hour to hour and half.
Thanks for your help.
Why don't you layout the plan you have in mind and we can take a look at it. There really is no point in spoonfeeding you info. What is more useful is for you to lay out what you exactly have in mind for a cycle, nutrition and training and we can help tweak it if needed so you can reach your goals.
JrblhGood advice
Rustyhooker^^^^^bingo! Become familiar with the big picture incase issues arise