posted Sun, 09/20/2026 - 13:29
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Injection Frequency / SubQ vs IM Argument
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For someone who is injecting 0.2ml of test every day, is it okay to use slin needles and go subQ? I have seen a lot of back and forth, I know oil based is usually always IM, but if you're going in that frequently I've heard this is the way to reduce irritation. Let me know your favorite injection methods on your blast and go to needle sizes. Also, what would you do if you're pinning EOD? All input is appreciated
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I pin prop IM every day. You need to have like 8 sites you can hit get used to hitting them. I use a 31g 1/2in 1ml.
Honestly if you're pinning with a longer ester I think ED is a little much. Test E 3 times a week IM has been good for me I don't see a benefit to frequency increase.
I love sub Q im current running npp at 300 a week and test 400 a week sub Q lil pip with the test npp is super smooth .. i partially or artey or vein once doing IM and it was a bad experience lol.. so unless I have to sub q is my go to...
That dose ed is bullcrap YouTube shit. Or why use a long ester?
5ft 8 at 150 your issue is eating.
I initially hated SubQ because I would get lumps under my skin that would itch for the next 3 days. I switched to shallow IM (still the 1/2" 29g Insulin syringe) and all was good. I ended up pinning SubQ again because I ran out of IM spots in my rotation and didn't have any lumps this time. I attribute that to different oil. Seems like my fat can handle grapeseed oil just fine but doesn't like cottonseed oil.
At this point, I mix between shallow IM and SubQ and haven't seen any swings in my bloods. I do have real bad pip when I inject more than 0.5ml into my quads though for no reason at all.
Because its not really in your muscle...I'm. 25 x 1 or longer depending on bf
I jump around and do both IM and sub Q. It really doesnt matter. I use 25 and 27g for IM and I have 29g 1/2in insulin Syringes I use for sub q. If you pop the plunger out of the insulin Syringe you can backfill them, which is faster and keeps the needle sharp.
My sub q shots are all around the belly button (stay 2in away from the belly button) rotating around in a circle. The love handles work too but I have those for my peptides. Oil will leave a little lump for a day or 2 but goes away. Im shots are all glutes and delts because they are easy.
When I first started test I did slin subQ injections and it did not go well for me at all. The worst pip ever and daily lumps from each injection that would last up to a week. I know some guys can do it but my body gave me a big F U. After IM I realized it was the way to go….for me at least.
End of the day it doesn’t matter. There’s old dogs on here who refuse to acknowledge science is an ever evolving field and just because something was done one way for a while doesn’t mean it can’t change now. If your volume is low you can subq and be fine or you can IM and be fine. Just pick a pinning frequency that works for your compound/esters, life schedule, volume injected, and method of injection. Then just be consistent. Thinking one way is “better” than another, however, is majoring in the minors. Don’t get caught up in that.
IM
If you sub q- you swallow semen
Damn you caught me
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I pin everyday IM with 30 or 31ga needles; I draw the oil with 22ga. I rotate locations daily - right mid delt, left mid delt, right glute, left glute, right lat, left lat, right rear delt, left rear delt, right quad, left quad, and back to mid delt etc etc. I go back and forth on pinning quads - I’ve seen all the abscess videos, and the PIP is usually the worst in the quads because the density of muscle and nerves. Leaving them out, that’s about 6 days between sites, so plenty of time for the muscle to recover.
But I have also heard from sources like Vigorous Steve and the Anabolic Roundtable that there’s no reason to do IM, and you’re just accumulating muscle damage and scar tissue, so I don’t really know. That said, right now I’m pinning a full CC of compounds in the morning so there’s no way that is going SubQ.
The muscle damage and scar tissue would be my concern if I'm going IM daily
He isn’t getting appreciable scar tissue pinning with 30/31g needles and rotating between that many sites.
What guage needle would you recommend for ED or EOD IM?
Depends on what muscle you’re pinning, how much fat is there, and how much volume you’re pushing. You won’t get past the tissue resistance and oil viscosity putting a 30g 1” needle on a 3ml barrel for example. Either way, read my comment up top and don’t over think this. You’ll get lots of different responses on here and just remember they’re all just opinions. You are also welcome to formulate your own opinion based on personal experience and then stick with that method.
Your wisdom is appreciated sir
Me personally I’m currently running :
Test E 350mgs weekly
Mast E 450mgs weekly
Tren 5-7mg daily
HGH 5iu daily
And taking Anavar @ 50mg daily
For me rotating between delta, quads has created less irritation. I guess the biggest issue I’ve had between Sub Q and IM is my HGH causes me to welt. I’ve fixed that issue by applying Flonase to the injection site post injection. No more welts.
Thats a waste of tren. Lol!! Flonase? Wth??
You’re right, I’m gun shy. My last blast went terrible, I’m raising mgs weekly, before I go off the rails.
The Flonase thing works. GH either burns or causes massive welts for me depending on the brand.
Fixing to be on a very similar cycle
Lol
How often are you pinning T?
Every 3 days