HGH quality concern/question
So I started back on hgh about 20 days ago. Started at 3 ius and by day 10 I was up to 6 ius a day and then two days ago I went up to 7. All doses have been split into two injections, one first thing in the morning and the other around 5oclock pm. So here’s my dilemma, I’ve had ZERO side effects. Usually I can’t get over 3 ius without massive hand swelling and practically debilitating carpel tunnel by 4 ius and takes weeks of slowly upping the dose to get to 4 without the carpel tunnel being severe. So what gives? In the past I noticed usually the side effects are worst when I take my dose right before bed, and when I wake up my hands will be huge, so I’m thinking about taking like another 5ius before bed and see what happens. And if nothing happens just keep going up and up and up I guess.and then get my bloodwork done in the next few weeks. Can anyone think of a reason why I shouldn’t try this? Also has anyone had completely side effect free gh even at a high dose? Or is this pretty much garbage hgh? Let me know what you think, thanks fellas
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So I didn’t want to make whole post for this but I did 3 ius this morning, 3ius in the afternoon and then 4ius a few minutes ago, within about 8 minutes my nose starts bleeding, and two days ago my nose also started bleeding randomly but I don’t remember if it was after an injection or not. But besides those two times I haven’t had a nose bleed in like 8 years. Anyone have a clue why that happened or just coincidence??
Edit: on that first day I got a nose bleed I had done 8 ius that day, but not sure how long after my last shot it started bleeding
Use it for a few weeks and do a blood test. I was never one to go by side effects as to the quality or potency. I've tested 4 different brands, all at 5 i.u. pharma and generic and some sides like lethargic and numbness and some I had nothing but all tested well within the same range. After being on awhile you feel no side effects. You can order a IGF TEST for $79
Where? And when you order them online and go to a blood draw place do you also pay the place drawing the blood and the online company or does that 79$ included both?
Edit: I found it online, thanks. I thought it would’ve been a lot more $$
Therealist2018Bro don’t know if you have health insurance but I went to an urgent care clinic. Got checked for a sore throat and did all my blood work. Not gh serum but they did igf. $15 copay for everything.
Ya my insurance will cover it but not if I request it, I gotta get a doctor to order it and I’ve had basic panels done before but igf was on it, I wonder what I could say to get the wall in to test for it? Maybe insulin and glucose issues?
Therealist2018These urgent care places they’re not primary doctors so the can pretty much just do what you ask. And the best part about it I was in and out in 25
Oh I never thought of that, I use this one walk in all the time, I’ll just straight up ask I guess, good idea bro, I’ll let you know how it goes
Walkinlab.com
You can order to quest or LabCorp
How long should I be on it for, before testing, it’s been like three weeks now
That's long enough. An article written many years ago suggested 7 days. Me and Makwa had this discussion too and we both agreed to 7 days but 3 weeks definitely enough to get a proper reading
The company i go through includes the drawing fee when purchasing tests online. I go through ulta labs typically.
Blood test. Carpal goes away as you get used to it
Ya but the last time I used it I had carpel tunnel, I stop taking it for a few months and then I start again and the carpel tunnels gone, how could I have gotten used to it , while not taking it. And so does that mean no matter what does I take I’ll never get it? Because I was getting it at basically half the dose
I can tell if it’s real on two iu’s before bed. Regardless of which brand/kind of HGH I’m using, my hands and fingers will go pins and needles quickly if I’m in bed lying on my stomach, propped up on my elbows reading my cell phone. When I haven’t pinned, I can stay in that position a lot longer. I also sleep better, but dream a lot more if I pin 3iu or more. It’s like clockwork
I sleep horribly and I always hoped it would help but no matter what brand I use it’s never helped my sleep at all, doesn’t make me tired or lethargic or anything.
I’m about to say that your HGH may be underdosed or even a different peptide entirely, although my wife can’t use my HGH before bed because it immediately wires her up, and keeps her awake. Both mine and my wife’s hair grows a lot faster than usual on HGH. Instead of every two weeks, I I have to get a haircut every three weeks while running HGH. Instead of every three months, My Wife Hass to get her hair highlighted every two months when running HGH because it grows so fast that you can see her roots earlier than usual. You should check out my pictures and try the HGH we’ve been using. I love it, it’s in liquid form, professionally packaged, and consistently the same. I’ve been done with that white box Shit for a while now. I heard a Source say the cap color doesn’t matter. It completely turned me off. Why would any factory use different colors if they didn’t matter? That’s just a ridiculous comment if you ask me.
Just sucks cus I have 10 boxes of it
Is this that same src that had shipping issues? The 10 boxes come from them?
Yessir
Maybe it’s just affecting you differently, or at least I hope. Is it from this new source with the great prices?
Ya but not the one that only sells gh and with all the different size kits. This one has oils and stuff too. But I don’t want people to think it’s trash just yet, it might just be me so don’t bash them just yet lol
The one that shipping took forever
Therealist2018I hope for your sake and mine your test come back good. Cause I have 8 of these myself.
I don’t sleep well ever either. Hgh never got me to that point of sleeping good, it may just be that we are getting old lol.
I guess so, idk what it is, a mouse tip-toeing could wake me up these days, it’s crazy. It’s like I’m just barely asleep the whole night and then every two hours my eyes just shoot open
Have you tried low dose extended release melatonin and/or a white noise machine? If small sounds are waking you up, then it’s very likely the white noise will help. I have a machine and it just sounds like TV static. Knocks me tf out. If it’s not on, any house creak, wife moving, goddamn owl hooting away outside, etc, wakes me up.
I damn sure have to have melatonin to sleep when I travel. Otherwise I’ll just lay there in a hotel bed until 0300, fall asleep, wake up at 0500. But it only takes like 2mg of the extended release stuff to knock me out. Hell I’ll even take the kids melatonin gummies because they’re delicious lol. 2 gummies per 1g of melatonin and it’s like a bedtime treat
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34049045/
Dude the kids ones are sooo good lol. I have them for my daughter. I don’t like any sleep meds because they make me kinda groggy and I HATE being groggy the next day. But I could try a super low dose one, like the kids ones. And I have no trouble falling asleep, I just wake up like 6-8 times a night! I feel like I’m on tren
Yea the sound machine helps me tremendously with waking up middle of the night. Because like you said any little noise or creak wakes me up otherwise. I just repurposed by kid’s Hatch baby sound machine to my own lol. It makes a huge difference for me at least.
So just some added background info: For months now I’ve been having digestion/stomach issues and some sort of glucose issue. The stomach thing was awful and getting really bad, I was going to go the ER soon if I didn’t improve. I felt like a school bus was parked inside my intestines. I tried even tried enemas. Like once a week I’d shit a little tiny bit. Then like a week ago a member said it sounded like liver problems, I had been kinda over doing the orals, so it made since. I stopped the orals and within a couple days I finally released a massive shit and no longer feel insanely bloated and backed up. So I’m saying all this because I’m almost postive my liver isn’t in great shape, in two days im starting glutathione injections and see my cardiologist in like three weeks and he’ll order a full panel for bloodwork (not igf or hgh just health stuff). I know your liver excretes igf-1 so if your liver isn’t doing great that can mess up your igf-1 levels, but idk if that matters when your injecting exogenous hgh but either way I just wanted you guys to have the full breakdown cus I’m pretty sure some of you know who’s gh I’m using, for the guys that do know and are also using it, don’t base your judgement off of me , cus I could be the problem lol. So as my liver heals up with the glutathione and staying away from orals and everything but test, I’ll re-evaluate and hopefully everything’s good to go
Sometimes i wish hgh was like melanotan2
Inject real melanotan2 go to sleep wake up 3 hours later with a dick harder than Chinese arithmetic.. so easy to tell
Well usually for me if I do like 3ius right before bed, I’ll wake up with two huge ogre mitts for hands and I know we’re good to go. But no so much with this stuff but I know side effects aren’t a foul proof way to judge but still.
KonstantViktoryIt could be that your body has grown used to the HGH. I stopped getting those side effects after roughly the 3rd or 4th kit. I haven't tran HGH in over a year, but last time I ran it, even as high as pulsing 10iu+ - I didn't get those side effects that I had originally got; carpel tunnel and extreme bloating. I just continued to get the to lipthermogenic effects and the increased day to day fullness, as well as tiredness (which was handed much better) ... BUT, I still did get the water retention, it was just much more even. I don't know, it's weird, my hands seem to grow thicker on HGH.
Ya but I had the side effects 6 months ago while on gh and then stopped taking it and then started up six months later and no side effects. I wasn’t on it the whole time and then the side effects went away, so idk if that’s the case. But you saying you’ve been on 10 ius without side effects makes me feel a little better about it
Whats the mirror telling you I dont judge by side effects i judge myself with mirror
But you stay looking in the mirror Hollywood. You know we've always been jealous of you ever since you posted your Brad Pitt look alike selfie. You have the personality, muscles, all the women and the looks...life can be so damn unfair. Lol @wanted
Life is GOOD Except for pissing acouple hundred dollars away last week instead of waiting for our mans results. But we move on
Too early to say you wasted money and besides that you never complained about wasting your money on all those thousands of women. Let's let it play out. We'll see.
Well actually I gained 8 pounds since I started and have kinda swelled up everywhere but my diet took a major change about ten days ago, so I didn’t really want to base it off that, especially because I had been under eating for the last few months due to stomach issues and I think I found the solution recently so I was able to increase my calories and that’s when I started to grow, it just so happens I had also just started the gh right before I started growing but I haven’t noticed any fat loss like I usually do on gh either, so I really just don’t know
In my opinion— is we been hit by a tornado of the opposite of placebo effect==. Mind is working over thinking until we can get more clarification on all these sources gh. But its up to you if you have some legit gh at home maybe go 4 iu and 4iu of the other up in the air brand just to get our minds right and keep on track.
Nope put all my eggs in one cheap ass basket
Can do the serum test, 10iu injection then have blood drawn at 3 hours
Are you lower bodyfat / lower estro / holding onto less water? Taking any diuretics? (compared to your run when you had the sides)
Source?
Ya I’ll do one of the blood tests soon I was just thinking about in the meantime. But probably same bodyfat, water retention is probably similar, right now I might be holding less then last time but I had attributed that to the gh, no diuretics then or now. As far as estro I may be lower no since I had some nipple flair ups a few weeks ago so I was talking Anastrozole for that but stopped about two weeks ago.
I’d rather not mention the source yet, just to not make them look bad until I know for sure, but I will say that it’s not that gh source that you had commented on a little while ago that people were saying might be no good from another forum lol
there is honor in discretion :-)
reason asking about water/estro is that the CTS / edema certainly seem to be increased for others when holding more water / bf due to extra nerve compression.
You can (should) also be checking your blood glucose levels. At the doses you're suggesting you're in danger of insulin resistance / diabetes in the long run. If you have any idea of baseline from previous bloodworks etc that can also be used as a marker that you are pumping gh.
So I do check my blood glucose but I’m always running super low, and in the past when I wasn’t having glucose issues, when I got on gh my fasted blood sugar would rise. But now I’ve been having this issue where I’ve been going hypo when i go two or theee hours without eating, it’s not all the time and hasnt happens in a little while now so idk. I haven’t been checking it fasted I’m the AM which I should be. I’ve only been checking when I feel kinda off or weak to see if I’m going hypo. If I check it in the morning and it’s over 100 that would be high for me, so I’ll check tomorrow AM and let you guys know
Are you running keto? hypo 50-70 seems to be doable with ketones with heavy carb restriction. Glad to hear you're tracking.
Hows your thyroid looking? If hypo on a normal diet it may point to hypothyroid - decreased thyroid output is another common issue with GH, especially longer runs at higher doses. If your TSH is elevated and free T4 is low, it would be recommended to look into supplemental T4 (NOT T3).
Not medical advice - DYIR and all that good stuff.
Good luck - hope you see some good news.