posted Thu, 10/05/2023 - 19:00
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Hello everybody,
Question, and hope I can get some good advice or just any experience based on the subject.
I’ve never done Primo and recently added it to my current cycle, it’s been about 8weeks, I am on Primo E 200mg,
For the past few weeks I’ve notice dry joints I can really feel the pain when I work out chest, back etc mostly upper body, would primo have something to do with that? I am also on Sustanon and boldenone. Idk exactly what it could be but I think it might be the primo.
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Primo and bold can both be potent AI's. Are you taking any other AI's? Sounds like you crashed your estro.
Thanks brother,
I’m taking Sustanon Primo and Eq, I dropped the eq and will finish up my cycle just with Primo and sutanon, I also just ordered some dbol, domestic hopefully I get it this week, what would be a good idea to do through the cycle to avoid this in the future on another cycle?
That primo/EQ combo probably to potent with respect to AI properties. Several options just run one or the other at moderate dose, up test dose, or add something else that aromatizes like some low dose dbol or a splash of TNE every so often.
Certainly sounds like low estro. I’d drop the primo, won’t do much at 200mg per week anyway.
Thanks brother, I will actually drop the EQ, Primo is 200mg per ml and I am doing 3cc weekly sorry if I didn’t explain myself correctly, I am also getting some dbol asap.
That makes more sense. For me primo has a significant AI effect, sounds like you may be similar.
Hope situation improves quickly for you.
Crashed estro. Blood test?
My sustanon to eq is 750/750 and an added e2 mitigator needed bloods to confirm.
Drock 357 is after his weedeater mate!!! He's pissed LMAO
Oh? Okay.....great?
What’s the test and bold dose?
Boldenone converts to a mild AI, primo exhibits mild AI effects in some individuals, and your response to those varies depending on your genetics.
Short version you may be crashing your estrogen. Get some blood work to be sure and adjust accordingly.
Test around 800mg weekly, en around 300mg
Jakeko mentioned dbol which I’ve heard about before when crushing your estrogen.
I have 3 more weeks to be specific left on this cycle so I was thinking about get some dbol asap and drop the Eq, hopefully that helps
Are you on a low sust dose? If higher it probably kept your estro higher than what it is now.
Test suspension will do the job if you don't fancy dbol.
Sust has prop and phenprop so possibly increasing sust to take advantage of the quick esters which will raise estro too.
Agreed, running three compounds that have AI attributes is guaranteed to screw you up. I would drop the Primo or EQ, and run some Dbol for a week or two to bring that estrogen back up. I would usually suggest NPP to lube the joints, but if you have crashed your estrogen, the NPP can mask that and ultimately make matters worse.
Totally agreed brother, I’ve also been feeling like shit, lethargic so that explains it. I only have about 2 more weeks left on this cycle, do you think it would be a good idea to still add the dbol for a couple of weeks?
Dbol should straighten you out, IF low estro, within a matter days. 2wks of it will put you on the other side of the estro fence probably. Test suspension, TNE, dbol are your best bets for increasing estro in that order.
The Dbol is you best bet to raise your estrogen quickly. With only two weeks left, I would at the very least drop the Primo immediately. The Dbol will actually pump you up nice in the last two weeks of what you’re running, but I wouldn’t run it any longer. At 200mg per week, all the Primo really doing is acting as an AI, and might be the source of your problem. Primo is meant to be run at 400-600 per week, no less. Even 400 is very low. Kinda just wasting the gear and making you lathargic to boot. I bet your libido is also down, and you’ve probably been needing viagra or Cialis lately as well, right? When I’ve crashed my estrogen, my hard ons weren’t as hard and it was a challenge to even get a hard on. Trust me on this, drop the Primo right away, it’s only hurting you right now.
Great info, the Primo I’m doing is 200mg but I am doing 3cc per week so 600mg weekly my libido I can definitely tell that is not the same but still works lol no viagra, Cialis needed plus wife just gave birth to our new member of the family so haven’t been using it lately lol.
I was thinking about dropping the EQ instead, es I’m only doing about 300mg per week so not much, and just stick with test and primo, I don’t have any dbol so I will order some asap from a domestic source, I have heard good things when combing NPP and Primo together.
That EQ is going to stick with you for a long time so you aren't going to notice any immediate effects from dropping it. Need to bump up aromatization to get back on track, IF low estro. I would get some bloodwork done just to be sure.
Congratulations on the baby! God Bless you guys.
Ok, that makes sense, definitely dump the EQ. Sounds like a great Primo cycle, so I would keep that going to at least 12 weeks, 16 weeks if you have enough gear. The top domestic source can get you some Dbol pretty fast, so you may want to consider them. You do have to give your name and info to donate blood, but you shouldn’t worry about that at all. They won’t come back to you and call you out for lying, although the will contact you several times to remind you to donate once you’re eligible again. It use to piss me off, so one time I didn’t go back for a while out of spite. Well, that bit me right in the asa because I was running EQ at the time and when I finally went I was turned away because my blood iron was too high. EQ did that, so ALWAYS donate mid cycle while running EQ, or it will happen to you too.
Happy you haven’t NEEDED viagra, LOL.
Also, and most importantly, get a blood test to see where you levels are, and at a minimum, go donate some blood as soon as possible. I donate every two months now. It’s like getting the oil changed on your car. Don’t admit to any steroid usage or they won’t let you donate
Sorry if I sound kinda ignorant but what type of blood test do you have to get done? And I’ve never donated blood. What’s the process like? Do they ask you a lot of questions, do they test you for various things/deseases/vitamin deficiency etc.
Great advice from JakeKO, they will just ask you what if any medications you're on, the biggest thing is make sure your blood pressure is in a decent range because they can and will reject you if it's high. They might do a quick finger prick test to check your iron levels. Donating is really a good practice to do and I like how he related it to getting the oil changed in the car every couple months lol
Oh and there's never a dumb question you don't sound ignorant at all. Hope you get things sorted out
Thanks bro,
So you don’t even have to give your name or anything? You guys a great when it comes to help each other out big thumbs up bro
"Knowing is half the battle"
-G.I. Joe
Anytime! But yes they will ask for your ID or donor card. But you can also have your primary put in an order and get it drawn at the lab instead of a donation